what if NK leads to nothing, then

what then does Trump do to swoon over the low-info voters

Then he won't get a lot of support among independents

I never brought up NK on case it doesn't lol

Because there's s chance it wont

What else would give him a lot of moderate/independent support exactly?

But Kim seems pretty adamant on capitulating, Trump's sanctions have gutted their economy

Let me put in this some perspective

Is there anything, I dunno,

It has to be something which is unprecedented in the eyes of the masses.

Obama could do to you to make you like him as a President?

suppose he still was,

Nuremburg 2.0

for just a moment

I'm far right

I'm not exactly an independent

Yeah lol

Maybe some space related thing?

If pizzagate turns out to be true, if Hillary Clinton gets arrested, and/or if a huge scandal involving all of the democrat senators comes out, the Dems will be anally fucked and lose a lot of seats.@

Okay,

Nah

@🎃Boo-ton🎃 lol I'm sure that a lot of GOP voters would like Obama if he built the wall, cut taxes massively, reversed Roe V Wade, et cetera

you suppose you don't care about policy

They'll still win, scandals don't touch democrats

suppose you only care about rhetoric and presentation

Menendez is set to win again

If he suddenly turned hard right and built a wall and revoked birthright citizenship then I'd support him

Trump is crass and crude,

to but it mildly,

Independents don't like that in the Presidency,

they want the President to be a man they can have their children look up to

for inspiration

Let’s say a picture emerged of a democrat senator literally raping a child

Who tells their kids,

"You can grow up to be like President Trump one day?"

I don't know, he gets a dog or something like that? He does more SOTU speeches?

@Rhodesiaboo that'd work

One every year

I'm not sure Trump is willing to undergo a change in character

I think Trump enjoys the sort of chaos in the White House

the controversy, the turmoil,

Independents, man

remember, Trump was a game show host, essentially

If his behavior can become legitimized by something, some major problem no one can fix that he did, then he can get independent support.

he's into this sort of thing

Get to the point Mash

Trump needs to recede into the wallpaper

What do you mean?

he need blend into the woodwork,

He needs to be like an average president?

stop being in the headlines all the time

yes, sorta

That'll never change

not in terms of policy

The media will have him in the headlines

No matter what

If not him the GOP

"He needs to be like an average president?"

lol he's much better off NOT being an average President

Yeah

but,

look at his approval numbers

one of his strengths is that he's so eccentric

they're awful

>approval numbers

his approval numbers were shit in 2016 too

and polls show Americans largely support Trump's policies

Another would be if a Picture emerged of a democrat senator meeting with a Mexican Cartel leader or a Islamic Terrorist leader and trading stuff.

he doesn't need to bring them up by disappearing

it's clear we need to capitalize on the Democrats' fuck ups

Again, approval numbers are extremely unreliable, and haven't held up to historical tests

his disapproval is rooted in character concerns

like the fact that they're screwing up right now when it comes to the 2nd amendment

also I love Trump for his character

more politicians should be like him

The problem isn’t the Republicans, the republicans have a high approval rating of him. The problem is that he is so abhorred by the democrats.

well, of course you do, you're from New York

Yeah we didn't elect someone presidential, that was the point

"well, of course you do, you're from New York"

yep

Obama was "Presidential"

Hilary was very presidential

Really?

I don't want any more feminist white knights in the Oval Office again

Yeahl

Look,

She was the wife of a president who literally raped women

Look at her debate diction

depends on how yo udefine Presidential, of course

being presidential,

doesn't mean having to be a cuck,

or a pushover,

Bill was still presidential in he public eyes

Trump can be presidential and still be a fighter

The point is his behavior has to be legitimized by something, and that will bring up his approval rating.

for instance,

when Trump called out that WaPo journalist for lying about his Florida rally size?

This entire discussion is a fucking waste of time, we are not going to change Trump, let's focus on what we can actually effect.

that was a moment it was justified for Trump to attack the media

Obama’s approval rating was by 2015, at 40%, heading down to the 30s

If Trump is going to attack someone, it should at least be justified and specific

Yeah Obama had terrible approval ratings until he left office