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in the end, he alienates **everyone**
his base is irritated
Read the Wordpress article Mr Red Storm put out
and the people he tries to win over don't believe him
First item on the not to do list
Button Mash is David Brock 2.0
Is he an isolationist? Is he a nationalist? Is he a neocon? Is he a libertarian? Is he a compassionate conservative? The thing about Trump that will hurt him big time is that if he continues to sort of fuck around like this, it will tank his entire presidency.
Because I'm calling out Trump for betraying his campaign promises?
He had a message and it was perfectly fine.
America First.
@Rhodesiaboo i'm sorry, but if you're going to defend Trump no matter what he does, you're the true shill here
Button, read it
Iโm not
Iโm just saying
I know, he's changing the fundamentals of the server which is well and good
If Bombing that airfield did nothing
This wonโt do anything either
That's not the point
No, I said read the first point on the not to do list
It's the message
Trump is 90% rhetoric to keep people from knowing what he's actually going to do. And ultimately: what he usually does is kick legislative decisions down to the legislators. Trump can't ban bump stocks: he quite literally does not have the authority to do so. The legislature would have to write a bill declaring bump stocks illegal, pass the house and senate, get to his desk and then he could sign it.
Even if he does nothing
and the inconsistency
one second
he's isolationist
then he's interventionalist
The problem is that if people don't know what he's going to do, there's no reason to vote for him.
What do they want out of it? Do they know if he'll even deliver?
it's really disorientating @FLanon
Here is what we will NOT be doing for Red Storm:
-Whining how things are hopeless, how bad things are, how our politicians are letting us down, how so many aspects of culture/media/education/big business are arrayed against us. All these cannot be ignored, but they must be used as motivation for action. Donโt indulge in pessimism and defeatism. Thatโs what losers do.
BUT IT'S 4D CHEEEEEEEESS
There I made it easy for you
ART OF THE DEAL OR WHATEVER
This isn't whining
I'm talking to button FL
We're outlining what Trump is doing wrong and how he can fix it.
Ok then tell me what you came up with, how can you fix it?
Read my article
Trump wants to be liked by his liberal friends in the Hamptons so bad, and at the same time he wants to cling on to his base support @FLanon
It seems his strategy is to use the Nixon foreign policy strategy of the "Madman Theory" and apply it tenfold onto every aspect of the administration.
that's a recipe for inconsistency and flip-flopping
@FLanon which is a stupid strategy
The madman theory may be decent for geopolitics, but not for getting people who voted for you to vote for you again.
-claps hands- Children - oh children
There is no 4d chess: anything Trump doesn't want to do, like make a decision on DACA he just hands it off to the legislature because it take congress 1-3 years to write, vote, committee, revise, argue over terms, vote again: then repeat the whole process when it clears the house and enters the senate.
What did he do about DACA? He handed it to the legislature and gave the democrats all kinds of other issues to go batshit insane over. What was the result? The time limitations on DACA ran out, it has not been renewed, DACA is now dead and he even got to blame it on the democrats.
It's not 4d chess: it's fucking simple shit.
There's gotta be continuity. That's also a problem with firing his cabinet picks.
The problem is his rhetoric *does* matter.
What does he want to convey to the voters?
I don't know, nobody does.
Even if he ultimately doesn't act on cuck policies, it still reflects badly on him as people don't know what they're getting with him.
Campaign Trump: All DACA recipients should be deported
Drumpf: We love the dreamers, we love everybody
Who @๐Boo-ton๐ secretly admires
Then he flipped right back
This is the issue
This incessant whining is tiresome. Vote for someone else next election.
Oh I will
If he wants to be a cuck, just stick with it, if he doesn't want to, he shouldn't even go near DACA, Syria, or guns.
I want Trump to succeed.
Like Hell I'm voting for this shallow ignoramus again
@FLanon - DACA - is - dead. It's done. It's time limitation ended without being renewed.
The issue is we can't sit in a building on fire and not grab a fire extinguisher.
no it's not you idiot
That's not the point.
it's being reviewed the courts
The point is what Trump wants to say, what Trump is about.
pfft
If he wants to change his message, then stick to that.
No wonder Congress doesn't pass Trump's agenda
Trump doesn't even know what Trump wants!
How should we expect Congress to?
Yes @FLanon , as you have stated, do I need to count how many times in the last 5 minutes. Message - got it.
If he doesn't want to fuck with that in the first place, he shouldn't go near it with a ten foot pole.
This moron shouldn't have ran for president in the first place
The issue is I have to continue reiterating because even if he doesn't go through with something, the continuity on what he is is completely fucked.
It should be obvious by now
Trump only ran for President to benefit his business interests and family ties @FLanon
@๐Boo-ton๐ who Button Mash works for.
he never cared about immigration
or trade
I don't think so
@๐Boo-ton๐ his business has suffered quite a bit though
or foreign policy
that's the ting
How else do you explain the flip-flopping
the inconsistency
What, particular, policy, do you not like - @๐Boo-ton๐ ?
the desperation to appease liberal Democrats
@Observing Libertarian the policies he sympathizes with
amnesty for Dreamers,
If he's a billionaire the last thing he should be thinking about if he wants to benefit his business interests is to run for president.
bump stock ban
It might just be me but none of this seems constructive
I don't believe that either.
@๐Boo-ton๐ , have bump stocks been banned?
My opinion is that he's applying a strategy meant for foreign policy onto every facet of his administrstion.
@Observing Libertarian he sent a memo to the DOJ to do so
@FLanon or maybe,
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