to secure potential voters

of course, we know this, but the LEGAL immigration problem is as big

we've gotta get both on our side

If Trump can manage a deal where we get everything secured in Goodlatte and giving the Dreamers residency, I think that's best case scenario.

I hope there's a way he can navigate this w/out giving a path to citizenship

**NO AMNESTY**

As for potential voters, after these midterms we should get rallies going for voter ID

Also

Trump's going after California with the Census

by adding a citizenship question

I've seen that, it's a good play.

should cost the state 2 electoral votes and 2 reps

I trust Trump as a negotiator, this play he's been making on the immigration deal has been masterful

He knows how to play the game

The Dems have no leverage, we have all of it

wait

its possible the Dems want the Dreamers deported so they can use pictures of them being rounded up to sway voters

Well that's why Trump passed DACA to the legislature and didn't cut up the program and sent them all back

Jesus I missed a lot apparently

Yeah, it's been pretty turbulent

Anyways, the GOP and Trump can make the excuse that the Dems fumbled the deal, that's why he passed it to them.

SWITCH PARTIES ALREADY

Oh yeah I was going to say that Manchin looks like he won't be running for Senate again this year

That'd be good for us

Who else can they even run

Ehh I'm ambivalent

It's now competing with Oklahoma for the reddest state in the union

a democrat in WV is pretty rare really

7 out of 10 voted for Trump there

Post-2000, yes

You've got to understand that it used to be a blue state

Manchin isn't progressive by any means and he might have not voted blue all the time, but he still leaned quite Democratic. The only reason Manchin won was because he ran on coal

so did every rural blue collar union area, but they're jumping ship

He's not progressive, but people too often conflate the "blue dogs" as right wing, which isn't the case

Manchin isn't voting for Trump's agenda any more than the worst Republican senators

Most probably because Schumer's holding the reins tight, but the effect is the same

Votes are what matter in legislature, that's it.

And to be honest, Manchin is probably the only WV Democrat who could beat WV Republican. IDK about the progressive alternative, Paula Swearengin

Most definitely, Manchin does well in the polls

And it doesn't look like Swearengin isn't running on coal, since it is quite anti-progressive

I think if someone like that ran in a state like WV they'd be completely finished

Anyways, back to DACA

Goodlatte or bust

The Dems cannot put all of the blame for DACA failing on Trump

He can easily argue this on a constitutional basis

"I was willing to make a deal, but they didn't care enough!"

If he came out in September and decided to end DACA and send ICE down immediately, then you could make that argument.

I think this will end well for the Rs and for us 100%.

If they capitulate, we get everything we want and the "dreamers" will screech at them, if they don't then they can't get their new voters and the "dreamers" will screech at them (this time surrounded by ICE).

It's a catch-22 in the best way possible.

win-win

Hey

I wonder if I should take a look at Chuck Schumer's home here in NYC and see if I can talk to the protestors

it's a bit of a long trip away from me though

http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/157912216#p157912251

new thread

bump it every 10 minutes

how the fuck did this happen
https://news.sky.com/story/north-korea-calls-for-reunification-with-south-korea-11221519

huh

wow

is that a legit news site?

Sky News, yeah

Murdoch owns it

peaceful reunification?

They're going to be the same team in the winter olympics so i'd assume so

This is surprising, I never pictured that NK could be the ones leading the initiative

I wonder if Trump will rise in approval from this

Ever since the "I have a bigger nuclear button" line, they seem to have been pacified, opening conversation lines with the south, not really taunting the US.

You bet it would, no amount of media shilling could change that.

They can pull the "id's obama's egonomy" line when they're talking about the economic boom, but foreign policy as of J20 2017 is 100% Trump's responsibility.

I have no clue how this was accomplished

Maybe a backchannel deal w/ the Chinese/Americans in exchange for him living comfy

But if something this monumental is accomplished, it would be a major deal, we could pull our troops out of East Asia, and the only existential threat to the US would be completely neutralized.

We could stop needing to give aid to SK and Japan, and reallocate those resources back to the US.

Politically it's useful, and practically, it's even better.

I just hope they're legitimate.

Anyone there?

I'm here

We should bump the thread

someone bump the thread

YouTube is retarded

http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/157889622#p157889999

check em

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/956376362364874753

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH

I REMEMBER MAKING A JOKE TROLL THREAD ABOUT THIS MONTHS AGO

this guy lost to Dubya in the prime of his unpopularity

http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/117147242/#117147242

this is the thread I made

If Trump's proposed DACA legislation on Monday is garbage, my support is rescinded
Hope for the best, prepare for the worst

lol come the fuck on

the Modus operandi seems to be to use it to fuck with the Democrats politically

BTW are there lots of Hispanics in your area

I'm part of the 4% White minority in an 75%+ Hispanic town

wow

what's the name of the place ?

I'm guessing you're in Socal

yep

hell on Earth,

I'd move away but us minorities have to stick together