Message from @FLanon
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by adding a citizenship question
I've seen that, it's a good play.
should cost the state 2 electoral votes and 2 reps
I trust Trump as a negotiator, this play he's been making on the immigration deal has been masterful
He knows how to play the game
The Dems have no leverage, we have all of it
wait
its possible the Dems want the Dreamers deported so they can use pictures of them being rounded up to sway voters
Well that's why Trump passed DACA to the legislature and didn't cut up the program and sent them all back
Jesus I missed a lot apparently
Yeah, it's been pretty turbulent
Anyways, the GOP and Trump can make the excuse that the Dems fumbled the deal, that's why he passed it to them.
SWITCH PARTIES ALREADY
Oh yeah I was going to say that Manchin looks like he won't be running for Senate again this year
That'd be good for us
Who else can they even run
Ehh I'm ambivalent
It's now competing with Oklahoma for the reddest state in the union
a democrat in WV is pretty rare really
7 out of 10 voted for Trump there
You've got to understand that it used to be a blue state
Manchin isn't progressive by any means and he might have not voted blue all the time, but he still leaned quite Democratic. The only reason Manchin won was because he ran on coal
so did every rural blue collar union area, but they're jumping ship
He's not progressive, but people too often conflate the "blue dogs" as right wing, which isn't the case
Manchin isn't voting for Trump's agenda any more than the worst Republican senators
Most probably because Schumer's holding the reins tight, but the effect is the same
Votes are what matter in legislature, that's it.
And to be honest, Manchin is probably the only WV Democrat who could beat WV Republican. IDK about the progressive alternative, Paula Swearengin
Most definitely, Manchin does well in the polls
And it doesn't look like Swearengin isn't running on coal, since it is quite anti-progressive
I think if someone like that ran in a state like WV they'd be completely finished
Anyways, back to DACA
Goodlatte or bust
The Dems cannot put all of the blame for DACA failing on Trump
He can easily argue this on a constitutional basis
"I was willing to make a deal, but they didn't care enough!"
If he came out in September and decided to end DACA and send ICE down immediately, then you could make that argument.
I think this will end well for the Rs and for us 100%.
If they capitulate, we get everything we want and the "dreamers" will screech at them, if they don't then they can't get their new voters and the "dreamers" will screech at them (this time surrounded by ICE).
It's a catch-22 in the best way possible.