Wrogn again

For them it was great

GOP lost 8 seats

Average swing is 23

And it's still not similar to waht Button mash wants to do

He wants Democrats to control House in 2018

Not in a presidential year, are you listening to me?

Then GOP take it back in 2020

Which has NEVER happened.

But it will

Heheh

Majority or minority to majority in 6 years

No

Doesn't mean it's not valid

Why bet on it?

Why not try to keep the majority?

Instead of "Hold republicans accountable"
and bet on flying blind.

Of course it's not valid, it's a fucking terrible strategy.

Just because in certain years and they didn't bring it down to "minority", that doesn't mean it's invalid

or majority

yes it does, because what he is saying is

People like Mash don't help our cause

2018 Democratic 25+ swing

2020 Republican 25+ swing

Entirely possible when they try something stupid

Which is nearly impossible and hasn't happened even when the US electorate was WHITE and flexible.

Never has happened even when they did something stupid.

hawley Smoot Tariff during the Great Depression

Majority party held control.

Button Mash's idea is horribly flawed and just all around idiotic, Nuke's strategy is a much more solid approach.

And has history behind it to prove it's been effective.

What is Nuke's Strategy?

Just try to maintain the majority by running negative campaigns against Democrats

Big idea is just holding both houses.

And hopefully gaining more seats

Until Trump's 2020 charisma can carry more GOP on the coattails.

It would be nice yeah.

we need to gain seats, but even more keep control.

The issue is the quality of the party itself

Button Mash wants to hold republicans accountable for what they did no Omnibus and stay home and "earn his vote back", and then flip it back in 2020

That is so stupid

yeah it is, but you're playing two different games. Democrats don't care about the quality of the party, they just vote party line.

So you're running on principles and they're running on Party name.

I'm not saying it's desirable, however it is not an impossibility or even that absurd.

Which means they're going to win more seats because they are holding none of their politicians accountable

It's like my dad when he votes, he just votes right down the line Republican

It is totally absurd!

It is not absurd.

There's 200 years of history and modern day projections to prove!

Older people just vote on party name

That's a fact

@Deleted User That's pretty uncommon for most right wings is my point.

But still

Younger Democrat doo to.

Lots of older people do it

The problem is that the circumstances change a mile a minute.

At least democrats get things done when they are in office

Republicans can have a majority and not accomplish squat

It’s the sad truth

That's our problem

Mostly because the Senate

the House has passed 305 Bills so far

They don't have to care about party purity because they have a solid foundation

But the Senate hasn't taken any of them.

Every Democratic Senator voted for Obamacare

And now obamacare is enver going away.

We don't have party unity

My idea is that we need to fight in the primaries for the most far-right candidates (but not too harshly) and ultimately endeavor to defend as many Reps/Governors as possible in November while going on an all-out offensive in the Senate to reach 62 votes.

A solid majority of people want it modified, not repealed anymore

When people vote for a Democrat, they know how they'll act

Great idea

We've got too many renegades, too many cucks

That's my stragety

Get some of our guys into office

Then you basically take over the party

That's why people on the left can vote straight down because their candidates do what they want

not even that.

They have no principles that they hold to their politicans.

Like it or not, they are reliable for what they get voted in for.

Democrats don't hold their politicans accountable ever

Perfect example is NJ's senator

This is what I'm saying, THEY DON'T NEED TO BECAUSE THEY DO WHAT THEY WANT

Not really.

They just don't care.

60 dem senators, every last one of them voted for Obamacare

Not all Dems wanted Obamacare.

Every dem senator voted against tax cuts

But they voted for it

And they weren't held accountable.

At least they know what they're voting for

What about reducing the filibuster rule.

A lot of democrats were against that

Herry Reid did it anyway and retired.

No democrat cares.

he just shit on 180 years of tradition.

They have no principles

The point being, democrats are a muh more solid group than Republicans

They elect their politicians to just vote partisan

John McCain's voting record looks nothing like Rand Paul's, but Joe Manchin's voting record is very similar to Elizabeth Warren's.

My point^