If he doesn't redeem himself and manages to get impeached, I'm going full #CruzMissile in 2020

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Cruz wouldn't have signed that omnibus, that's for damn sure @FLanon @Deleted User

He didn't vote for it

@Deleted User this is if Trump gets impeached

Cruz also wouldn't have won in 2016

Prove it

yeah, the thing is....that's not going to happen

@🎃Boo-ton🎃 lmao

Cruz could not appeal to the rust belt voters

that's the thing

Cruz would not have needed to

trying to primary Trump in 2020 is fucking retarded

I'm not suggesting that whatsoever

He would've won in NV, VA, and CO

If he is in that position, he has to harness the message Trump built, obviously, the forgotten workers in Pennsylvania, Ohio, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan.

Nevada?

really?

NH too

wtf

that's totally deluded

Listen

I agree with NV, not sure about CO or VA

One of reasons Trump did so well

Is because of clinton

Trump is the only one who would have won, don't kid yourself.

Everyone hated Clinton

every one else would have buckled under the flurry of negative media attention

that's totally ridiculous

I'm not so sure Ted would have beat Clinton actually

Hillary was a particularly strong candidate BECAUSE of all the connections she had

You remember the "glass ceiling" shit?

it's a dumb NeverTrump argument to say "Trump only won becuz Hillary lawl, anyone else would have beat her"

that's not how it works

Hillary had flaws, sure, but she had a shit ton of appeal because of the "muh woman" card

I'm sure 1/3 of the people that voted for her voted for "muh first woman president"

and she was super connected

and the media shilled for her 24/7

do you not even remember 2016 ?

Can we agree on someyhing

she was not easy to beat

If Sanders won the nomination

literally the only reason I'm trying to help the GOP win in Congress is because of Trump

Sanders would have won the presidency

I think Trump would have adjusted his strategies to deal with Sanders

Trump stood out the most, he was ascendant, had the populist appeal, he was the only one that could have beat Clinton out of the 17 man field.

you can't really say that

No.

Are you kidding me

No, he wouldn't have.

it's not solely ideology, it's campaign strategy

he could have attacked Bernie over being socialist

He wouldn't get the glass ceiling vote

Sanders has Rust Belt appeal

there are many voters who would have been willing to vote for Hillary, but not Sanders

yeah, but so does Trump

He's popular among young voters

The working class

there are people in Michigan/Wisconsin/Pennsylvania who would be willing to vote Hillary, but not Sanders

White voters

College graduates

Sanders buckles easily under pressure

Ted would have beaten him for God's sake

Ted Cruz would have wiped the floor with him

and isn't so good at debates (Trump's not so good either, but he manages to win in other ways)

Ted definitely beat Sanders in those debates

easily

He's another McGovern

do any of you remember those?

Nobody cares about debates

@🎃Boo-ton🎃 you're overestimating the importance of ideology when it comes to winning elections

What

much of it is due to dealing with the media

allocating funds

Debates are important as fuck

visiting locations

Tens of millions of potential voters for either side

Exit polls show everyone made up their mind before or after the Cory reopening

figuring out specific ways to attack specific candidates

Comey

Wasn't that after the debates?

who would the MSM and the corporations have even supported? I doubt they would have backed Bernie

They would've I think

Dude

Maybe not as strongly as Clinton, but more than anyone in the GOP

MSM, grudgingly

The MSM bashed Sanders constanyly

but many corporations would not have supported Sanders, but because Hillary is a neoliberal, they'd be ok with her

Young people didn't care

and they'd prefer her over Trump

Would they support an R over clinton?

Listen

Wait a moment

For God sakes

also....Trump is just more alpha than Sanders, that's a huge factor

Are you suggesting these people are capable of unbiased coverage?

Listen to me

Before Nov 2016, the media had negative approval among even Democrats

Nobody made their voting decisions based off what CNN anchors told them

Maybe FOX or MSNBC