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2018-01-15 02:00:20 UTC

@Snickers yeah, there's a nugget of truth in it, but the thing is a lot of them go way too far with it

2018-01-15 02:00:23 UTC

some retard could get lucky and shoot me in the head

2018-01-15 02:00:55 UTC

or I could win a battle with my side, only to have us all killed instantly by a drone strike

2018-01-15 02:01:00 UTC

someone like Jared Taylor is much more appealing than this accelerationist idiocy

2018-01-15 02:02:05 UTC

Right, but are most of them legitimately pushing for a white ethnostate, questioning how Jews run everything, etc. or are they just LARPing for whatever reason

2018-01-15 02:02:25 UTC

it's hard to tell who is LARPing and who isn't

2018-01-15 02:03:00 UTC

however, I would bet that the kinds of posters who go "hurr instead of voting in the midterms, just take up arms and start a race war instead" are larpers or shills looking to get people in trouble

2018-01-15 02:03:14 UTC

Trump's approval in the most vulnerable districts:

2018-01-15 02:03:16 UTC

Competitive Republican House Seats: 15
1. Arizona-2 (42%)/California-25 (36%)/New Jersey-2 (45%)
2. California-39 (41%)
3. California-48 (50%)
4. California-49 (45%)
5. Colorado-6 (37%)
6. Florida-26 (41%)
7. Florida-27 (48%)
8. Minnesota-2 (42%)
9. Nebraska-2 (43%)
10. New York-19 (35%)
11. New York-22 (41%)
12. Texas-7 (41%)
13. Texas-23 (37%)
14. Virginia-10 (46%)
15. Washington-8 (33%)

2018-01-15 02:03:40 UTC

I'm pushing to make the demographics better too, I'm not blind, but as for ethnostates where there's strict rules for who is allowed to stay and who gets deported isn't going to realistically happen

2018-01-15 02:04:10 UTC

@๐ŸŽƒBoo-ton๐ŸŽƒ This begs the question...how do we know these polls are sampled properly?

2018-01-15 02:04:26 UTC

I'd say pushing family values back onto families, and having an immigration system similar to pre-'65 is how I'd put us back on track

2018-01-15 02:04:41 UTC

in the Alabama election, there was a poll right before that said Jones would win by 10% (far from it) and another that said Moore would win by 10% (nope)

2018-01-15 02:05:05 UTC

I wouldn't trust polls since they can be very ambiguous.

2018-01-15 02:05:11 UTC

@FLanon yeah, that makes much more sense than "hurr, let's import the entire third world...and then we're GUARANTEED to win!"

2018-01-15 02:05:17 UTC

data's better than no data, that's how I see it

2018-01-15 02:05:38 UTC

yeah, but the question is...how do you use data to make decisions ?

2018-01-15 02:05:51 UTC

whether or not Trump is popular in those districts, we still need to put as much effort in as possible

2018-01-15 02:05:59 UTC

now, you could argue that we should ignore safe red and safe blue areas

2018-01-15 02:06:02 UTC

that's true

2018-01-15 02:06:11 UTC

but it's hard to tell what's truly 'safe'

2018-01-15 02:07:08 UTC

tbh the Media should just tell what each politicians' voting record is instead of shoving polls saying who is in the lead, so people can make decisiosn based on policy not advancing whatever politician is ahead

2018-01-15 02:07:38 UTC

pollsters should ask voters what politicians should do differently

2018-01-15 02:07:44 UTC

the media doesn't care about democracy and making voters informed

2018-01-15 02:08:25 UTC

they're in cahoots with a lot of them, wikileaks showed this

2018-01-15 02:10:47 UTC

I can understand turning to more radical means if things collapse...but voting for people for the purpose of making things collapse is so retarded

2018-01-15 02:11:09 UTC

not only are you not guaranteed to win, you're also not guaranteed to cause the collapse as quickly as you might want

2018-01-15 02:11:14 UTC

if it happens, but not to make it happen deliberately

2018-01-15 02:11:24 UTC

exactly

2018-01-15 02:11:31 UTC

there's better ways of going at it

2018-01-15 02:12:25 UTC

if we had better margins in the house and senate, we'd have a) a wall b) a better immigration policy, literally fixes the country in generations

2018-01-15 02:12:43 UTC

maybe the 4plebs result for 'accelerationism' is skewed because only the dumbasses who support it will use the term, but there seems to be a significant amount of /pol/lacks who think it's a proper strategy

2018-01-15 02:13:45 UTC

I just can't figure out why anyone would want this kind of shit unless you do nothing but sit and watch gladiator movies your whole life

2018-01-15 02:13:56 UTC

it's so cartoony

2018-01-15 02:15:05 UTC

I'm looking through the archives right now

2018-01-15 02:15:16 UTC

apparently Varg wanted it back when the French election was happening

2018-01-15 02:15:45 UTC

I remember people saying that Macron winning was 'good' because Le Pen would give the kind of 'kosher nationalism' that Trump was giving which "isn't working"

2018-01-15 02:16:40 UTC

lmao didn't her dad say the lampshades were something of history or something of that effect?

2018-01-15 02:17:27 UTC

you've got to be pragmatic, that's how you do it

2018-01-15 02:17:51 UTC

there's multiple ways you can bring the country back to our favor, not just by setting it on fire

2018-01-15 02:18:28 UTC

that's like social keynesianism

2018-01-15 02:18:47 UTC

If we can get the Immigration Act of 1924 reinstated all our problems will be solved

2018-01-15 02:19:08 UTC

exactly

2018-01-15 02:19:18 UTC

RAISE can fix so much shit

2018-01-15 02:19:52 UTC

"
Blackpilled accelerationists are the ghetto niggers of nationalism. They haven't accomplished anything for decades but whenever there's a hint of even a fraction of what they want being normalized they lash out, because if it isn't 100% of what they want they feel betrayed and change takes actual effort while jerking off about muh day of the rope while Muhammad fucks their wife and Juan takes their job at least gives them some petty moral satisfaction that everyone else is as shit as they are.

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2018-01-15 02:20:01 UTC

"

2018-01-15 02:20:05 UTC

Accelerationists are the biggest blue pilled cucks.
There is zero proof that it would work, which it wouldn't if you spent even 2 seconds pondering the fact. There are only 2 possible outcomes of importing a shit ton of niggers and arabs will result. Either the eventual mixing and genociding of all whites or the much less likely outcome our successors in the future eventually driving the shitskins out with violence but the damage would be done and the shitskins would have left their genetic mark on our people just like with southern europeans.
If your a nationalist and your advocating that we fix our problems by opening our borders because muh acceleration of muh collapse, you deserve the rope.

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2018-01-15 02:20:15 UTC

RAISE would shift immigration away from Latin America to Europe and Asia, but largely Asia

2018-01-15 02:20:19 UTC

it's a good start

2018-01-15 02:20:20 UTC

more people can look at debates for this kind of stuff which I see on Warski all the time

2018-01-15 02:20:56 UTC

Trump definitely wants more European immigration, he talked about it on the campaign trail and he reaffirmed it during the daca talks

2018-01-15 02:21:36 UTC

yeah

2018-01-15 02:21:44 UTC

the thing is, how are we going to get more European immigration

2018-01-15 02:21:52 UTC

I guess you can rely on the fact that Europe is going to shit

2018-01-15 02:22:07 UTC

and you can try getting more South Africans

2018-01-15 02:22:11 UTC

if someone charismatic could make these kinds of arguments in politics, we could make something work.

2018-01-15 02:23:02 UTC

There's a lot of young faces on the right, and it's definitely not for any gay classical liberalism or liberalist nonsense

2018-01-15 02:24:13 UTC

I see a lot of these debates on it, and the comments always see the sense in maintaining the european nature of the US

2018-01-15 02:25:28 UTC

I have no doubt that Europe will fix itself at some point, the thing is about the immigrants over there are mostly opportunistic economic migrants who don't stay if they don't get anything

2018-01-15 02:25:57 UTC

I remember a story about Denmark where they slashed benefits for migrants and then in a single night, 40000 people left the country

2018-01-15 02:26:21 UTC

Europe's beyond salvation

2018-01-15 02:27:25 UTC

With the crackdown of ideas and weapons, any right-wing movement is almost impossible

2018-01-15 02:28:48 UTC

too much power in the government

2018-01-15 02:28:51 UTC

I can see that sort of argument made for a lot of areas, but I also see parties like the AfD in Germany making a lot of gains and feeling at least a bit of hope for them

2018-01-15 02:29:06 UTC

it's a tough thing

2018-01-15 02:29:50 UTC

the accelerationism meme may manifest over there, I hope they get unfucked before it comes to that, but I'm not quite sure

2018-01-15 02:30:05 UTC

there's a huge difference between Europeans in the 1920s/1930s and Europeans now...back then, they had just went through a World War and were FAR from being giant pussies

2018-01-15 02:30:21 UTC

point being, the migrants there would go back to their countries if they had no social net

2018-01-15 02:30:28 UTC

I'm not sure if militaristic states could easily arise in this day and age

2018-01-15 02:30:43 UTC

Europe has seen 7 decades of peace

2018-01-15 02:31:06 UTC

multiple generations have been raised being coddled by the state and never experiencing anything close to the horrors of war

2018-01-15 02:31:07 UTC

I'm not really thinking too far in that direction, but I'd say that cutting welfare for immigrants could solve the problem easily

2018-01-15 02:31:45 UTC

change has to come through legitimate political action

2018-01-15 02:32:11 UTC

but the thing is, it's become very difficult for that to happen, for obvious reasons (thoughtcrime is a real thing over there)

2018-01-15 02:32:19 UTC

it's like you look at Poland, there's no immigrants there even though it's in the Schengen area, the reason? Economic migrants want money.

2018-01-15 02:32:38 UTC

I guess Generation Identitaire and groups like it can train themselves to not be pussies

2018-01-15 02:33:23 UTC

I believe eventually what would happen is that there would be a lot of nations over there which obtain governments similar to the one Austria has, and after that, migrants would have an exodus back to their homelands

2018-01-15 02:34:05 UTC

if there's no free ride, there's no point in staying, I'd rather be living in a homeland which speaks my language, which there's plenty of in the Middle-East

2018-01-15 02:35:48 UTC

I mean, put yourself in their shoes. You speak Arabic, you go to Europe because they don't offer dental in Turkey or Jordan. You live an easy life, then the government takes away your incentive. Why wouldn't you go back? Wouldn't you much rather be in a country which speaks your language than which doesn't?

2018-01-15 02:36:26 UTC

yeah, it makes sense to just let them go away after cutting their aid

2018-01-15 02:36:31 UTC

hopefully it's that simple

2018-01-15 02:37:06 UTC

I seriously doubt that 90% are there because they legitimately want to do the Islamic world domination stuff.

2018-01-15 02:38:04 UTC

It's much more realistic that a person wants to live comfortably. Occam's razor.

2018-01-15 02:42:16 UTC

yeah, that makes sense

2018-01-15 02:44:14 UTC

51 seats guaranteed so far in the minimal

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/402291862787850240/data.png

2018-01-15 02:46:31 UTC

looks like a good analysis

2018-01-15 02:47:06 UTC

the amount of beige states is very whitepilling

2018-01-15 02:47:56 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/402292796796698634/control.png

2018-01-15 02:48:00 UTC

I like the fact it includes a candidate next to it

2018-01-15 02:48:18 UTC

is this the bookmakers analysis?

2018-01-15 02:48:44 UTC

sauce would be pretty good

2018-01-15 02:49:54 UTC

IMO Wisconsin is pretty winnable

2018-01-15 02:51:52 UTC

based on this we should expect 54/55 senators on our side?

2018-01-15 02:52:06 UTC

that's very good

2018-01-15 02:53:01 UTC

that's about the margin we have in the house

2018-01-15 02:53:18 UTC

most likely

2018-01-15 02:53:26 UTC

56 is an extreme stretch

2018-01-15 02:54:12 UTC

wouldn't be too certain about that

2018-01-15 02:54:48 UTC

I'd put our cap at 59

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