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<:lul:484994724118134784> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_mePjkQW_c EVIL-ution..
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@Citizen Z no I wasn't there when those fossils were found but that doesn't mean its a forgery. If you want observable proof for evolution, I think you should study genetics (however I'm more interested in fossils) and even with fossils you can see how organisms transition to form different organisms.
Idk what your definition of observable is but if you expect to see a species evolving to form a new species in your lifetime you have not understood evolution
Alright let's start with australopithecus Africanus
We know they are closely related to hominids because of the skull structure
Their remains have been found in these locations:
I can't effing send pics
So I'll send you links
Now the skeletons have been dated to roughly 2.9 to 2 million years ago
And I know you disagree with the dates but Im sure you can agree that they existed
Do you? @Citizen Z
Anyway, it was from this species that we get the first hominids
We know that because of the limb structure but I won't go into those details now
This species was the common ancestor of all hominids and I'll send a link to show them
The similarity is pretty obvious and this species is called homo habilis which did not coexist along the aforementioned australopithecus Africanus and we know this because of relative dating
And we also know they made stone tools because we have found stone tools and hand crafted materials in homo habilis sites and in their graves
Not yet homo sapiens, but they made stone tools... Pretty impressive right
Anyway, these guys had a "cousin", homo rudolfenses
I don't expect you to read it so just look at the picture of the skull
Now homo rudolfensis was the ancestor of homo erectus
I'm sure you've heard of that
So like, they were the ones who were confirmed to walk upright because of their hip bone structure
Anyone with any knowledge in forensics can confirm that so there is little doubt that homo erectus walked upright
Again, you don't have to read it but if you saw the picture you can see how the skull is similar to the skull of homo rudolfenses and also how much more similar it is to a modern humans skull
*side note there are other hominids who lived at the same time but we're not interested in them right now because I'm talking about the origin of "humans"*
And then we have homo hiedelbergenesis
The similarity to a human skull is increasing and it is becoming less and less like an "ape"
This guy then evolved to form homo sapiens!!!! Which is us!!!!
Yaaay
Now if you want more "evidence" of the transformation read from the links I sent you and see how the tooth cavities and hip bones all suggest common ancestry
Aannnd most importantly we have genetics
We were able to extract nuclear DNA (yes nuclear DNA and not mitochondria DNA) from a sample of homo Neanderthal fossil (oh btw the common ancestor of homo sapiens and homo Neanderthal was homo hiedelbergenesis) and confirmed that we share their DNA suggesting, rather confirming that we interbred with them at some point
@Citizen Z *dab* if you actually read that and still have problems feel free to ask
Lol
Not verifiable
Show me the data
Museum have fake bones in them and claim to have the real fossils hidden away for protection
Plus they recreate most the fossils. They interpret
They make shit up
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Ah "poop"
hahaha
bad word
STOP profanity now!
I LITERALLY sent him the images from the excavation site
But no he can't accept it! Cuz that would mean he's wrong
@Citizen Z side note, IF they were "real" and not made up would you change your mind about evolution?
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No because carbon dating isn't verifiable and neither is DNA
if you modify DNA in a species, and further stop modifying it. That species will later on grow back gradually
which indicates that there is something other than DNA that determines the organism
god is dead guys sorry we were at the hospital last night and he was on his last breath
he wanted me to tell you guys that being gay is not a sin and also that you can flick your pickle so long as you don't do it to anime
Nietsche is dead
the reason god is dead is that western civilisation killed God
as a karmatic consequence, the west is about to fall
god is fat
God is never dead... He is very alive and right in front of you... hopefully one day inside and part of you
i'm really sorry to disappoint you but those were god's last words to me
@red if you wish to troll and have nothing serious to say I can find a different place for you here
im sorry mr z
Dude, I never brought up Carbon dating. Even the paleontologists digging up these fossilsa didn't use carbon dating
And what do you mean DNA isn't verifiable?
We use DNA evidence for forensics!
Its used to solve crimes and is accepted by the court, Id say thats pretty "verifiable"
Look dude you're just shoving off every piece of evidence
sure you do.
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you say we like you found this stuff and dated it
Try to understand this:
Carbon dating is not used to date these fossils, different radioactive isotopes are used.
And the only thing funny here is how you avoid answering me or avoid to recute what i say
try to understand this:
you dont know shit. its all lies. evolutution is a crock of shit and i have proof your theory cant be true. ill post it tomorrow.
gnite
Gnite mate
And hopefully maybe tomorrow you might be able to refute the stuff I said too
Well
There are direct proofs of evolution
But okay
And yes, we know DNA is real
It's funny how I worked with DNA once
We multiplied the DNA with the PCR method
Which is also used in forensics to have more DNA material
Also, carbon dating IS a reliable way to determine the age of organic material
Because we KNOW that things that breathe have a constant C-14 in and outtake
And since we know that c-14 is falling apart because it is slightly radioactive and we know the rate it in which it is falling apart we can calculate the age of something
these numbskulls missed the Lloyd Pye video, and..everything else (scroll up, kiddies) <:lul:484994724118134784> _smh_ ..
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