its not blocked

There is no way a ship can be under the horizon if the camera is above the horizon

asking me or him?

you can have the entire ship disappear over the horizon, none of it visible, then pull it back into view with zoom

false

your eye can't see it because of perspective

there are videos online where you can see that

but a camera can

once the camera can't

then it's gone

its gone over the horizon, if it was an actual curve that blocked it, you couldn't pull it back with zoom

and you can't

there is no curve because you can zoom it back in

when it **actually** goes over the curve

that's not over the curve then

that's unresolved

8 inchces squared per mile

2 miles is roughly 32 inches

3 miles is roughly 6 foot of blocking

there's no blocking.

no curve because no blocking

agreed

I disagree

On a flat plane

you just said there is no blocking

you are on flat earth

nothing can block the bottom of the ship

wake up and smell the coffee

I hate coffee ;P

But there's nothing that can block the bottom of the ship.

if I was standing on a ball, just as was modeled, I would know

no matter how big you made the ball, I could tell the horizon would not come up to eye level with me

it would fade off in the distance

do a model of a ball and you being on it

no matter how big the ball is and how small you are, you'll know its curving

you can test it and see it

everything is flat

No, I want you to understand that:
**on a flat plane, if the camera is above the plane, there is nothing to block a ship on the flat plane in the distance.**

@Moist Mayonnaise is that true? ^

Yes, completely

Thank you.

I know more people != truth

you totally miss the point

the human eye can only see so far, unless the atmosphere is right conditions you can see roughly 3 miles at best

@Fireflash - not true

if you go higher you can see further

from the ground 3 miles roughly

The human eye can see forever, theoretically

unless you zoom in, this is on flat earth

nope
@Fireflash

you can see lights in the distance

that are many more miles away than 3.

the human eye cannot see forever

I can see a plane in the sky

that's 7 miles up ;P

how small is it

with just their lights

a cessna

put it 21 miles up, how much smaller is it?

put it 300 miles up, you won't be able to see it

@Goldsteel - Dont be misconstrued by other "FEers"
we dont mean Exactly always precisely up to "eye-level"

-- They're/we're being approximate there
.

you got a plane only 300 miles away and you can't even see it

because the curve hides it

you really think you can see forever when its only 300 miles away and you can't see it

:dab:

wtf

imagine how big the sun is when its 3,400 miles away and its that big

what happened to my nitro

@Goldsteel "Stars" are close -- uhm so what?

they're not trillons of Lightyears away

luckily we can see the sun with our limited vision

i nose dat i nose

dats how

** stick with refraction plz**

I need some explanation for this image: https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-a04c6df7269268394ce2348d6476bf22-c

There is no possible way

we have distance detectors based on optics, we can shine a laser and determine how far the laser went

plus? looking UP? you're looking into >> __less dense__ "atmosphere" .. mkay
.

that perspective causes this

got it fellas? ..i hope so

None at all - I can prove it 6 ways to sunday lol

the moon and sun follow roughly the same path, we measured the distance of the moon and extropolate they are roughly on the same plane in the firmament

okay sorry I'll stop being rude

I still need an explanation 👀

they aren't above the firmament, but in it

do your own research

If stars are close, why don't they exhibit parallax from moving over the flat earth?

No more refraction? I'll just call that a win for us 😏

if stars are far away, why do we see the same constellations regardless of what day of the year it is.

why do we have the same constellations for the last 5,000 years, the sky is seeing the same stars

big dipper, yep, still there

small dipper yep

last chance for refraction points :v

my great grand daddy saw the same constellations

What? The constellations do change depending on the day of the year

You are joking there right?

seems like we aren't moving or the night sky would change

yup

✔ 👌
@^Kevin^ lol

Go take a photo of the constellations today

Then take one in 6 months

checkmark lol