❓ why am I being pinged called a fucking condescending fuckface moron before I've even said anything <:worried:485147448503697421>

I'm confused

@The Gwench Why is it straightforward

I literally haven't even sent a message and I'm being called a condescending moron fuckface??

How is this straightforward wtf

Then why was I pinged when they said it ❓

Ok

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Is everyone having a good day?

@Goldsteel are you having a nice day?

Nice :^)

I've never tested my IQ

booooring

tintin?

I saw the a cappella science guy performing at CERN yesterday :^)

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Good thank you, had a meeting with edboard that went well then had nice meal out :^)

Camera's don't work the same as the eye. In particular the image you are showing to show that points of light can't be resolved below the rayleigh criterion is not in general true.

The rayleigh criterion being a limit is a property of diffraction from a ciruclar aperture. Cameras can (and often do) have non circular apertures that can resolve beyond the rayleigh criterion.

😃

One of the biggest differences for instance is axicon lenses which can produce non-diffractive beams.

For a gaussian beam on a circular lens*

For other waveforms and other lenses, no

@Citizen Z I'm a bit confused as to how you think light works, so as you've just requested I've just written a quick simulation to model how light works, of two gaussian beams showing what I think you're saying.

Is this how you think two beams of light passing over each other would look, so that when they're ontop of each other you cannot resolve anything about them? i.e. 2 points of light ontop of each other look exactly the same as a single bright point of light?

@Citizen Z You requested that someone made a simulation of how light works for you.. I just did that for how I think you think it works, could you please answer whether or not it is?

Yes, completely

If stars are close, why don't they exhibit parallax from moving over the flat earth?

What? The constellations do change depending on the day of the year

You are joking there right?

Go take a photo of the constellations today

Then take one in 6 months

They're not the same

How does density make the proton beamspots in the LHC oscillate over time when they're in a vacuum?

Gases have mass

A balloon of helium is attracted gravitationally

The scientific community does call/consider it a force. The fact that a reference frame exists were the force vanishes, does not mean that it is not a force in every other reference frame.

Both acceleration and a force.

you said that the scientific community does not call gravity a force. They do.

Gravity is blatantly a force

@Goldsteel I'm confused why citizen Z asked someone to model light for him, I do so and he won't even look at what was made specifically at his request

@Citizen Z I'm a bit confused as to how you think light works, so as you've just requested I've just written a quick simulation to model how light works, of two gaussian beams showing what I think you're saying.

Is this how you think two beams of light passing over each other would look, so that when they're ontop of each other you cannot resolve anything about them? i.e. 2 points of light ontop of each other look exactly the same as a single bright point of light?

You don't care? You literally asked someone to make a simulation of light for you... I do as you request and you won't even look at it because you don't care?

Why doesn't it work? I simulated it as I think you think light works, what part of it is wrong?

I spent 5 minutes actually but still

Why not just say that then? It's just a regular avi file should work fine, but ok I'll post it on youtube instead then

Ok here you go https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StQkRKtj0K8&feature=youtu.be Is this how you think two beams of light passing over each other would look, so that when they're ontop of each other you cannot resolve anything about them? i.e. 2 points of light ontop of each other look exactly the same as a single bright point of light?

Modelled the electric field of two gaussian beams in MATLAB, plotted the sum of the intensity of each

Yes, is that how you're saying light behaves?

That if two beams of light pass over each other you cannot distinguish them from a single brighter beam of light?

Is that how you're saying light works?

So what do you mean 'merge as one' then

By merge as one are you saying that

Two spots of light ontop of each other is exactly the same as one bright spot of light?

What is what light does? You're being especially unclear

What? No one is trying to debunk how light works, I'm trying to figure out how you think light works

Because you aren't being clear at all as to how you think light works

Straight forward question, does the simulation I just provided show how you think two beams of light should look as they pass over each other?

@Citizen Z Straight forward question, does the simulation I just provided show how you think two beams of light should look as they pass over each other?

If not, what about it is not as you expect?

.... Why ask someone to model light for you if you're not even going to answer whether or not the model they make is as you think it should be?

You ask someone to simulate light for you.

I do so, as I think you think it should be modelled, and you refuse to answer even the simplest of questions... And I'm trolling?

Cool! Finally addressing the point. Could you please answer why?

The airy disk has nothing to do with diffusion

diffusion is completely distinct from diffraction

just because they start with the same few letters does not make them the same thing

oh darn you got me

lmao

@^Kevin^ Yup 😃 you learnt something, good job

Fire

Yeah I'm used to flat earthers insulting me ,ol

lol

Once some flat earther came to me at work and starting swearing in front of a load of kids about how man never went to the moon and stuff lol

I've never claimed to be a flat earther

The truth is the earth is a globe

I get told that a lot yes

Oh well

I am not, no

Anyway. Since Citizen Z clearly doesn't actually how light works, here is a simulation I've just written of how light actually works: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=231arqxJaqY&feature=youtu.be

You **can** distinguish two spots superimposed from two light beams from just a single brighter spot from one beam

When you overlap two beams of light, their intensities do **not** superimpose. Their electric fields do, which contain phase information, which can distinguish two spots overlapping from one bright spot.

Why don't flat earthers care about the truth

Lol

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@Goldsteel yeah.. just weird

It amazes me how they never even look into things that they declare as lies

I know that flat earthers don't bother to actually go and see the things they declare fake

For instance, flat earthers regularly declare CERN as a hoax since it (along with many other things) shows the Earth is not flat very clearly.

I've given tours of CERN to thousands of people. Never a single flat earther.

A huge number of ways. Long baseline neutrino experiments depend on the Earth being round. The beamspot correction depends on gravitation being real. etc

All of that is true, that is knowing what you're talking about talking

No, it does not.,

No, your model does not work at all.

They don't work either, but I am talking about the specific things I mentioned.

Long baseline neutrino experiments for instance blatantly show the earth is not flat

It does not work in the slightest with a flat earth

The OPERA experiment detects neutrinos from CERN.


The OPERA experiment is much much further underground than where the neutrinos are produced. So clearly if the Earth is flat, they should measure neutrinos coming from **above** them.

They don't. They measure them coming from below at precisely the angle the Earth being a globe predicts.

So no, when you say "stuff you said only works on on round globe earth actually works on flat earth" you're just talking nonsense.

No, they do not.

1) Shiva isn't the goddess of death
2) These rituals don't exist anyway

What is your point there?

A statue and regular rituals and praying are very very different things you realise