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2019-03-01 04:53:00 UTC

Conversation over.

2019-03-01 04:53:03 UTC

Gnite.

2019-03-01 04:53:08 UTC

Or you'll ban him?

2019-03-01 04:53:18 UTC

Nite ๐Ÿ˜Ž

2019-03-01 04:53:38 UTC

Gohan. Butt out. Be advised

2019-03-01 04:53:44 UTC

> refuses to answer my one question
> demands I read several books and watch several videos which are unrelated to my question
this is why I claimed victory.

2019-03-01 04:54:06 UTC

if ya gonna ban me, then cya lel

2019-03-01 04:54:18 UTC

watch this video and tell me where the rockets go

2019-03-01 04:54:46 UTC

The decision is yours @gohan

2019-03-01 04:54:58 UTC

What decision?

2019-03-01 04:55:06 UTC

and you ban threat again, kool

2019-03-01 04:55:08 UTC

why cant gohan talk too

2019-03-01 04:55:15 UTC

I stayed out of it like you asked @The Gwench

2019-03-01 04:56:08 UTC

no ones going to comment on this

2019-03-01 04:56:23 UTC

Theyll just say fake

2019-03-01 04:56:46 UTC

can't fake the stars though.

2019-03-01 04:57:06 UTC

all of the stuff citizen z posted is fake

2019-03-01 04:57:27 UTC

there disproved their arguement

2019-03-01 04:58:20 UTC

if they talk anymore they are a persistent debate troll

2019-03-01 04:58:21 UTC

10. Persistent Debate Troll
This troll loves to argue. They can take thoroughly researched and fact-based content, and come at it from all angles to challenge its message. They believe they're right, and everyone else is wrong. Theyโ€™re determined to have the last word โ€“ continuing to comment until the other user gives up.

2019-03-01 07:38:27 UTC

@Nikita haha that video you showed had a black out. ofc it did...

2019-03-01 09:51:58 UTC

If the earth is only 6000 years old, and all the fossils were formed within this time, why don't we have fossils of human bones. (By this I mean *imprints* of human bones in sandstones)

2019-03-01 17:53:19 UTC

We do

2019-03-01 20:40:44 UTC

Not really, there are cases of supposed fossilized humans in sedimentary strata, but often they are disputable given the lack of documentation and verification. It is hard to figure out, I doubt it.

2019-03-01 20:44:21 UTC

We do sort of have fossils of human like things. Like Neanderthals

2019-03-01 20:45:25 UTC

Vertebrates make up a fraction of a percent of the entire fossil record, so very few were preserved. Take note of that. Most are marine organisms.

2019-03-01 20:46:11 UTC

Noted

2019-03-02 02:52:29 UTC

hey guys

2019-03-02 02:52:39 UTC

I dont think the earth is round

2019-03-02 02:52:41 UTC

its

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a dinosaur

2019-03-02 02:53:28 UTC

ban

2019-03-02 02:53:58 UTC
2019-03-02 04:27:14 UTC

Going to bed but feel free to post your thoughts

2019-03-02 04:55:35 UTC

Not much. What do you think of the earth being flat?

2019-03-02 12:17:29 UTC

@Citizen Z you can apparently see planets with p900 and p1000

2019-03-02 14:08:21 UTC

They look round

2019-03-02 14:08:43 UTC

Show me a picture of planets

2019-03-02 14:08:51 UTC

Not from NASA

2019-03-02 14:09:57 UTC

Mainstream science believes NASA bs

2019-03-02 14:10:11 UTC

So you are just a believer

2019-03-02 14:10:20 UTC

In CGI

2019-03-02 14:12:42 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/538929818834698260/551406535612301322/Planets_6.gif

2019-03-02 14:18:07 UTC

@KuhRapMan I can see planets with my bare eyeball

2019-03-02 14:38:38 UTC

<@404485939898089473> do you believe space is real?

2019-03-02 14:39:18 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/538929818834698260/551413225661661187/gifanime_2018.03.26_13.01.43.gif

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/538929818834698260/551413226752049152/20180317_172942-1.gif

2019-03-02 14:40:44 UTC

You zero evidence

2019-03-02 14:41:07 UTC

I told you I dont care lol

2019-03-02 14:41:36 UTC

Show me a scientist that measured the curve of earth

2019-03-02 14:41:55 UTC

Planets are observed to be round. Earth is not.

2019-03-02 14:42:58 UTC

K they assumed they are spherical

2019-03-02 14:43:16 UTC

Yes gyroscopes prove the earth is flat

2019-03-02 14:44:03 UTC

Belief system

2019-03-02 14:44:14 UTC

You dont know what above us exactly

2019-03-02 14:44:21 UTC

You have never been there

2019-03-02 14:44:44 UTC

Comparing earth to anything up there is pretty dumb

2019-03-02 14:45:00 UTC

Since none of it is anything like us

2019-03-02 14:45:39 UTC

Lasers detect light smarty

2019-03-02 14:45:43 UTC

Light moving

2019-03-02 14:45:49 UTC

15 degrees of light moving

2019-03-02 14:45:57 UTC

It could be us or the sky moving

2019-03-02 14:46:20 UTC

Oh? What does the laser detect?

2019-03-02 14:46:57 UTC

They are measuring light

2019-03-02 14:47:01 UTC

Look it up

2019-03-02 14:47:10 UTC

It doesn't prove shit

2019-03-02 14:47:35 UTC

Yes by light

2019-03-02 14:47:36 UTC

Lol

2019-03-02 14:49:47 UTC

<@404485939898089473>

2019-03-02 14:49:50 UTC

We are done

2019-03-02 14:49:55 UTC

You are a liar

2019-03-02 14:49:58 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/538929818834698260/551415912700313612/Screenshot_20190302-064928_Chrome.jpg

2019-03-02 14:50:35 UTC

Laser is light

2019-03-02 14:51:07 UTC

You cant tell if its the aether moving or the earth

2019-03-02 14:51:23 UTC

Or if the gyroscope was built to show that

2019-03-02 14:51:38 UTC

It's not definitive proof of anything

2019-03-02 14:51:42 UTC

Gtg

2019-03-02 14:55:23 UTC

Alright, <@!404485939898089473> has been warned for '**Bad word usage**'.

2019-03-02 14:57:11 UTC

Learn something

2019-03-02 14:58:53 UTC

Watch the videos

2019-03-02 14:59:11 UTC

I dont care about a rigged experimental gyro

2019-03-02 15:02:07 UTC

The laset gyro literally was built to give the specific answer you are looking for

2019-03-02 15:02:28 UTC

They built it to work in favor of a globe

2019-03-02 15:02:47 UTC

It has software

2019-03-02 15:04:12 UTC

I proved to you its light that is making the thing measure a 15 degree shift. Which means if the aether is real, you would also get a 15 degree shift apparently

2019-03-02 15:04:46 UTC

You cant be sure its the earth or the sky or a rigged device

2019-03-02 15:04:53 UTC

3 possibilities here

2019-03-02 15:05:21 UTC

And since the earth measures flat, it's like the ladder two

2019-03-02 15:05:38 UTC

You have no proof it's not rigged

2019-03-02 15:05:52 UTC

Youre in denial

2019-03-02 15:05:56 UTC

Lol

2019-03-02 15:06:08 UTC

You are a believer

2019-03-02 15:06:26 UTC

Prove the curve

2019-03-02 15:06:34 UTC

Show me a measurement

2019-03-02 15:06:40 UTC

You didnt

2019-03-02 15:07:32 UTC

I showed you

2019-03-02 15:11:21 UTC

A regular gyro proves the earth is not curved

2019-03-02 15:11:38 UTC

Laser gyros prove there is an aether of some kind

2019-03-02 15:12:09 UTC

Kinda hard to rig a normal gyro

2019-03-02 15:14:10 UTC

They are not more accurate

2019-03-02 15:14:17 UTC

Just more complicated

2019-03-02 15:15:29 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/538929818834698260/551422335970836490/Screenshot_20190123-035849_Chrome.jpg

2019-03-02 15:17:18 UTC

Based off the sagnac experiment

2019-03-02 15:17:25 UTC

Learn something

2019-03-02 15:17:31 UTC

Its light

2019-03-02 15:17:37 UTC

Not the earth

2019-03-02 15:19:14 UTC

I'm saying the aether is interfering with it somehow

2019-03-02 15:22:14 UTC

Light interfering with light. That's how

2019-03-02 15:22:29 UTC

The ring laser gyro is way to complicated

2019-03-02 15:22:39 UTC

And it has software involved

2019-03-02 15:22:51 UTC

It's not a good proof of anything

2019-03-02 15:25:09 UTC

Yes

2019-03-02 15:25:14 UTC

Not a good proof

2019-03-02 15:25:41 UTC

No

2019-03-02 15:25:48 UTC

I represent myself

2019-03-02 15:25:51 UTC

Lol

2019-03-02 15:26:22 UTC

You trust flat earthers apparently though

2019-03-02 15:26:42 UTC

Lol no I didnt

2019-03-04 02:02:36 UTC

@Timebomb ```Vaccines aren't killing people``` Actually there's a statistical increased liklihood of sudden infant death syndrome when vaccinated versus unvaccinated childred of white christian mothers were compared in a study by the Mawton Report

2019-03-04 02:03:48 UTC

Human, how many people a year die to vaccines?

2019-03-04 02:03:52 UTC

Just the number

2019-03-04 02:04:13 UTC

Why was the study on white Christian mothersโ€™ kids?

2019-03-04 02:04:15 UTC

howe many people died from measles.in the past 15 years?

2019-03-04 02:04:26 UTC

http://www.followingvaccinations.com/home

Colton's story:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CHYmb9Hwj4A&feature=share

Holly died after her kindergarten boosters:
http://hopefromholly.com/blog/

Baby Ianโ€™s story - hep B reaction:
http://www.iansvoice.org/

Baby Aniya was vaccine overdosed:
https://www.gofundme.com/62bev-raising-money-for-aniyas-injustice

$101 million dollar settlement for an infant that suffered a severe reaction to MMR:
https://www.mctlawyers.com/101-million-dollar-vaccine-injury-mmr/

Two, one year olds die immediately after MMR:
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/world/samoa-recalls-vaccines-after-child-deaths/ar-AAzOvrF?ocid=spartanntp

2019-03-04 02:04:35 UTC

Jesus Christ dude

2019-03-04 02:04:42 UTC

Why did I expect a straight forward answer

2019-03-04 02:04:50 UTC

Not here ๐Ÿ˜

2019-03-04 02:05:13 UTC

I hate when flat earth truthers do this

2019-03-04 02:05:18 UTC

Guess what else we found, 2010 congresional hearings were released where they publicly admitted they contaminated vaccines with Syphallus

2019-03-04 02:05:23 UTC

do what? tell the truth?

2019-03-04 02:05:23 UTC

Instead of providing an argument they bombard you with links

2019-03-04 02:05:35 UTC

the truth is the argument

2019-03-04 02:05:44 UTC

He asked for the number of deaths, not a number of links

2019-03-04 02:05:57 UTC

gimme number of deaths due to measles

2019-03-04 02:06:00 UTC

right now!!!

2019-03-04 02:06:04 UTC

hurry

2019-03-04 02:06:08 UTC

ill give you 10 seconds

2019-03-04 02:06:10 UTC

Um, he asked first though

2019-03-04 02:06:10 UTC

Z, if I can watch the ISS solar panels move in accordance with its orbit around earth, is the earth flat?

2019-03-04 02:06:11 UTC

9

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8

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7

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6

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5

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4

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3

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2

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1

2019-03-04 02:06:22 UTC

times up

2019-03-04 02:06:23 UTC

That's less than 10 seconds

2019-03-04 02:06:24 UTC

you lose

2019-03-04 02:06:26 UTC

You answer mine first omegalul

2019-03-04 02:06:26 UTC

You are so edgy

2019-03-04 02:06:29 UTC

Lol

2019-03-04 02:06:33 UTC

you just lost the debate

2019-03-04 02:06:41 UTC

0 people died from measles

2019-03-04 02:06:41 UTC

That's uh, not how debates work

2019-03-04 02:06:42 UTC

lol

2019-03-04 02:06:43 UTC

One of the more edgy flat Earthers Iโ€™ve met

2019-03-04 02:06:55 UTC

ZERO dead from measles

2019-03-04 02:07:09 UTC

Cool, can you answer my question now?

2019-03-04 02:07:09 UTC

Will you at least look at what we found, it might well spare any children you may choose to have of a statistically increased chance of a whole variety of ailments?

2019-03-04 02:07:50 UTC

The last recorded death from measles was 2015

2019-03-04 02:07:55 UTC

not verified

2019-03-04 02:08:01 UTC

check your oracle

2019-03-04 02:08:15 UTC

Verified DEATHS

2019-03-04 02:08:28 UTC

See, "Vaccine Impact" seems a bit, shall we say, biased

2019-03-04 02:08:43 UTC

I am literally asking a simple statistical question in number form which requires 0 explanation and just pushing a few numbers, and hitting enter, yet it's too much to bare for you two. Yet you complain when I wont read your 250+ links?

2019-03-04 02:08:57 UTC

We also found that most of those deaths from measles were vaccinated children, supposedly immunized against measels, they're not effective

2019-03-04 02:09:19 UTC

@Quorum, donโ€™t expect a straightforward answer

2019-03-04 02:09:29 UTC

@Timebomb stfu troll

2019-03-04 02:09:36 UTC

Hey, hey, hey

2019-03-04 02:09:38 UTC

Everyone

2019-03-04 02:09:41 UTC

*civil* debate

2019-03-04 02:09:49 UTC

im not going to sit here and listen to your bullshit

2019-03-04 02:09:49 UTC

Timebomb, that means you as well

2019-03-04 02:09:59 UTC

Z, jesus, follow your own rules

2019-03-04 02:10:11 UTC

i am

2019-03-04 02:10:15 UTC

what have i done

2019-03-04 02:10:19 UTC

this is civil

2019-03-04 02:10:19 UTC

"stfu troll"

2019-03-04 02:10:22 UTC

Straightforward answer, see the statistics for yourself, vaccines clearly do more harm than good.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/538929818834698260/551949527268065280/DeepinScreenshot_select-area_20190303193030.png

2019-03-04 02:10:23 UTC

he trolled us

2019-03-04 02:10:26 UTC

That's an ad hominem, my dude

2019-03-04 02:10:57 UTC

Z, please explain why you wont answer my simplest of questions but you complain when I wont read your 250+ links, and how that isnt hypocritical?

2019-03-04 02:10:58 UTC

And Timebomb

2019-03-04 02:11:00 UTC

attack the argument not the person. timebomb is breaking the rules.

2019-03-04 02:11:14 UTC

"donโ€™t expect a straightforward answer"

2019-03-04 02:11:14 UTC

i answered all your questions

2019-03-04 02:11:19 UTC

That's attacking Z

2019-03-04 02:11:25 UTC

yes

2019-03-04 02:11:26 UTC

You didnt answer one.

2019-03-04 02:11:32 UTC

Actually, you didn't provide a number for certified deaths by vaccines

2019-03-04 02:11:36 UTC

@Quorum What evidence do you have that vaccines save lives?

2019-03-04 02:11:42 UTC

I only asked how many people die a year to vaccines.

2019-03-04 02:11:57 UTC

Does that include all the murdered babies?

2019-03-04 02:12:04 UTC

to make the vaccines in the first place?

2019-03-04 02:12:04 UTC

Just vaccines.

2019-03-04 02:12:17 UTC

Can we rewind for a sec? Can someone give Quorum a straight answer?

2019-03-04 02:12:22 UTC

Not the murders, specifically from vaccine injection

2019-03-04 02:12:34 UTC

That's not what he asked, dude

2019-03-04 02:12:54 UTC

I think youre just way too excited to spam these links and pictures

2019-03-04 02:13:02 UTC

late term abortion to get the parts they need to make the vaccines is still murder

2019-03-04 02:13:43 UTC

He asked for deaths from, and I quote
"Not the murders, specifically from vaccine injection"

2019-03-04 02:13:51 UTC

So... Straight answer? Please?

2019-03-04 02:14:12 UTC

I am LITERALLY asking for a **number**, example: "12345"

2019-03-04 02:14:40 UTC

And here we go again

2019-03-04 02:14:50 UTC

Dude, if you can't provide a number, just admit it

2019-03-04 02:15:04 UTC

This is too much xd

2019-03-04 02:15:23 UTC

What do you make of this, people that are anti-vaccination?

2019-03-04 02:15:40 UTC

I gotta watch something, brb

2019-03-04 02:16:16 UTC

Nah man, just take a picture of the table, it's more compelling than a link

2019-03-04 02:16:31 UTC

Not really

2019-03-04 02:16:36 UTC

/s

2019-03-04 02:16:36 UTC

The source is cited below

2019-03-04 02:16:40 UTC

Oh

2019-03-04 02:16:42 UTC

Lol

2019-03-04 02:16:57 UTC

@Timebomb I see graphs where "preventable diseases" were already heavily in decline long before the introduction of any vaccines and I see big pharma propaganda trying to show you a skewed study that ommits vaccinated versus unvaccinates illness rates to make the gullible and foolish think that vaccines save lives when in fact they don't

2019-03-04 02:17:13 UTC

Evidence they were already in decline, @Human Sheeple?

2019-03-04 02:17:22 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/538929818834698260/551951290905919504/VaccineGraph.jpg

2019-03-04 02:17:25 UTC

Sure no problem

2019-03-04 02:17:25 UTC

@Human Sheeple I see
A lack of a number of deaths caused by vaccine injection

2019-03-04 02:17:28 UTC

I want an article

2019-03-04 02:17:32 UTC

Not a graph with no source

2019-03-04 02:18:13 UTC

the source is in the bottom right hand corner of the image look it up for yourself if you wish

2019-03-04 02:18:16 UTC

The count is up to 2

2019-03-04 02:18:43 UTC

It doesnโ€™t seem they know why it happened

2019-03-04 02:18:54 UTC

Why assume this means every single vaccine is bad?

2019-03-04 02:19:04 UTC

Any other evidence?

2019-03-04 02:19:36 UTC

Actually the statistics show they will protect you from whooping cough and chickenpox, nothing else

2019-03-04 02:19:42 UTC

[citation needed]

2019-03-04 02:20:10 UTC

@gohan Mawson Report : Pilot comparative study on the health of vaccinated and unvaccinated 6- to 12- year old U.S. children

2019-03-04 02:20:24 UTC

Do you have any actual articles, or just news articles pandering your view?

2019-03-04 02:20:31 UTC

Any scientific articles?

2019-03-04 02:20:35 UTC

You said that that study used the children of white, Christian mothers

2019-03-04 02:20:35 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/538929818834698260/551952100616306690/Pilot_comparative_study_on_the_health_of_vaccinated_and_unvaccinated_6-_to_12-_year_old_U.S._childre.html

2019-03-04 02:20:40 UTC

yes we do

2019-03-04 02:20:41 UTC

Why the limited sample size?

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