just because it doesnt have infection rates next to it

i am not saying it isnt true

infection rates closely follow it

obviously before the vaccine the infection rate was probabaly somewhat close to the death rate

then after vaccine maybe it helped. i dont know that for sure tho

not really, the problem with them is that they spread to so many people

im not just going to say something is true without knowing it is true

like techincally rabies if untreated has one of the highest mortality rates

just, it doesnt actually infect many people

and there are easy ways to stop it before it gets to its deadly stage

cholrea on the other hand would just rip through a population

i just think its a good idea to quesiton everything

i would probabaly vaccinate my children if i had any, just not directly out the womb

Don't

well everyone has free will

thats the great thing about being free

you can do what you want and i can do what i want

there is a adocument wich states you can't sue the vacines companies ,if they are safe ,why would that exist ?

sue them if they are safe?

dont get it...

why would there be a document

because its a standard practice

there is a document for everything

ive been vaccinated

wich states that you CANNOT sue the companies who make vacines for the effect of the vacines ?

oh.

i see.

yes thats standard practice

you see that all ovr the place

there will always be adverse reactions

same with tylenol

the vast majorety of people dont have a bad reaction, but for the few that do

If you can talk yourself out of it the companies would have no problem being sued cuz they would be able to talk themselves out of the sue

its still exspensive

im not against what you are saying plukke

If you can't sue them ,don't trust them

i dont trust them

thats why i sit here and get ridiculed

yeah but you would let them put needles in your kids ?

depends.

B, i bet you have signed many things saying you cant sue a company for injuries

i dont have kids so i havent had to make that decision

Drpeper yes but those weren't putting drugs in my or my kids bodies

definitely not out of the womb

maybe at age 3 or so

maybe longer

its the same concept

B

why ?

because i think there is some good science to vaccines

some good it can do

Yes but if they where based on those good sciences you would be able to sue them

you have to get this point ;

so, a laser tag place isnt safe since you cant sue them for injuries?

im more worried about the well being of my family than suing people

its not that you can't when this this or that happens , you just can't sue them ,period

i see what you are saying

If you where concerned about the health you would not let them put anything you don't completely know what it is or does in your body

https://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/articles/vaccine-injury-compensation-programs

The fact is vaccines are unavoidably unsafe

i don't care how good they explain the science behind vacines ,if you're not willing to take responsability (being sued) for putting chemicals in my body ,you just won't.

DrPeper if they knew what the side effects could be and what it can do to you ,they would not need to be unsueable but rather explain this stuff in court when sued. No1 would sue them anymore for these things cause they know the companies would win ,but that's not the case now is it ?

you can get compensation for vaccine related injuries

also, they list the side effects

We can't even find out how dangerous they even are , or the efficacy. That's all proprietary information. If we had the right to sue we could find out during discovery . The National Vaccine Injury Act was CREATED so that never happens.

Drugs companies do to , gues what ,you can sue them

yes. if we could find out the dangers from the people that manufacture the vaccines it would be a different story

Well, let's think about it. What other product has immunity from suit for the manufacturer?

You shouldn't asume those dangers if we could just SUE

@Deleted User none

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/hcp/vis/vis-statements/dtap.pdf how would on ever find out

i have no idea

none

yes the inserts

tell a different story

well, many companies are going to forced arbitration instead of law suits for employees

also, cant sue gun makers for gun crimes.

there is nothing wrong with wanting to know all the facts

we wouldn't be suing the nurse injecting the vacine either dude ....

you can sue a gun maker if gun malfunctions i bet

apple is making the arguement it cant be sued for anti-trust violations

the forced arbitration thing applies to every company that implements it

so, thats a lot bigger then the vaccine thing

i don't know what you're talking about

How are they gonna do that with consumers ? i'm not signing anything before i buy something in the store ?

it has nothing to do with consumers, it has to do with employees

companies cant force them into arbitration and not be allowed to sue

So companies would be able to make themselves unsueable by their employees ? then just leave not ?

yes, they can make themselves unable to be brought to court by an employee

That's fucked but i would leave and sue them anyway ,if you're willing to sue your company you shouldn't stay there in the first place

most people cant just leave a job

also, i dont know how the agreement is worded. so leaving might not matter

Many people say that ,but i don't see that to be true as often as it's said. Ofcourse if you buy a house wich will take 40 years to repay ,then i'm sorry but don't complain that you've made yourself a slave of the system

i am saying even if you leave you might not be able to sue them

Yes ofcourse that's true ,so don't sign the damn thing ,but ofcourse we all know we barely know what we sign in such matters

and if you dont sign, you dont get a job. so 🤷 kind sucks

kinda

Plenty of jobs out there in the world ,the systems wants you to think you need such a deal ,you don't ,but ofcourse you cannot have a pre determined lifestyle

Evry1 just does what evry1 else does and than complain they have the same problems evry1 else has. euh duuh

Legal discovery will give you all the internal records for the development of the vaccine .