hell yeah

tbh i dont really care

I am Jewish ethnically

Religion is harmful

But atheist

Are you a flat earther as your name implies?

He's not

I think

I'm not

I used it to debate abt the topic

Btw I have not lost a debate yet on this server

Not that many good debaters

Pretty much every flatearther can't debate

Where

On the lounge

K

Anyone want to debate anything, religion, shape of the earth, vaccines, 5g, ect

Not rn

Anyone want to debate

Whoever is saying buoyancy and density causes things to fall, stop.

It's an effect of things falling, not the cause.

Y do u have to explain this

Because in schools they teach you the melting temperature of unsaturated fats and how to make oragami DNA using crayons and paper in high school.

True

Lol

Interesting question: If I could give you the exact date and time of your death, would you be interested to know?

No

Also @AstralSentient knowing the exact date and time would undoubtedly change it so

Or would it?

Will I get banned?

Yes it would

!ban @debatemaster101

@debatemaster101 did '**Unspecified.**' and got the ban hammer! <:CHECK6:403540120181145611>

Lmao poor Tristan

😆 😆 😆

Oof

I'm not even banned yet lok

Lol

U guys are calling things lies but are u looking at that, that is a lie

The earth is round

Actually no

Alright, @Kurokiba has been warned for '**Bad word usage**'.

Globies are boring as shit

Anyone want to explain how you see different stars at different places on the flat earth

Or how a solar eclipse works on a flat earth

Where is everyone

Idk

Anyone want to explain how the north star has been the north star for thousands of years and how Orion's belt is still the same positioning as the great pyramids after over 4500 years and how the constellations never change? If the earth was a globe shooting through space at almost light speed, these things surely would have changed.

Polaris proves the earth doesnt move and the stars have always went around us.

Lets vc debate

At work.

Solar eclipse works just fine

I have some gifs at home on PC I'll send later

Kind of illustrates it

Found one

@Citizen Z "If the earth was a globe shooting through space at almost light speed" earth moves at 0.01% the speed of light.

The stars move along at high speeds speeds, but they are so far away that it takes a long time for their motion to be visible to us.

Also in that gif it shows that solar eclipse only happen above the southern hemisphere

The stars are light years away. If an object is light years away and even if you're moving really fast, does it appear to move? No. The further away something is, the more you (or it) has to move for it to actually appear to be moving.

This is really just a Google away.

@Quorum u just repeated my point

Didn't read your point beforehand.

Wrong

Explain

The milky is supposedly moving at something like 14 million miles per hour

Yet we see zero movement

Lol

That's not counting the supposed spin of the milky way

But the stars we see are within the Milky Way. If the entire Milky Way Galaxy is moving and spinning, everything within it is moving at the same rate, so to the Earth's reference frame, the stars don't change all that much.

We dont see other galaxies?

Ok then NASA is lying

We dont see any movement

Galaxies aren't stars. I was talking about stars.

How do you explain that

Galaxies have stars

You aren't thinking. Just lawyering for your belief

Yes, but those stars, all combined, make a point of light in the sky.

You cant show me any movement

You really don't understand the distances involved, do you?

If you could show me movement, you would debunk relativity

You should read kings dethroned

You should explain how that would debunk relativity.

The distances are assumed to be infinitely distant

Relativity means you cant tell

You cant see us moving

Read kings dethroned

You would like it

It was written by a glober

It's not a flat earth book

Relativity means you can't tell what?

It explains everything I'm talking about

Also, are we talking about the same relativity?

Let me get you a few quotes

Or you could just clear up what you're trying to say

That would be nice too

Here is just a few

If you are to lazy to read a 91 page book you shouldn't be trying to argue your belief system

"The data [of Michelson-Morley] were almost unbelievable...There was only one other possible conclusion to draw — that the Earth was at rest."


— Physicist, Bernard Jaffe

"As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain, and as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality."


― Albert Einstein

"Soon I came to the conclusion that our idea about the motion of the Earth with respect to the ether is incorrect, if we admit Michelson's null result as a fact. This was the first path which led me to the special theory of relativity."


— Albert Einstein

"I have come to believe that the motion of the Earth cannot be detected by any optical experiment, though the Earth is revolving around the Sun."


— Albert Einstein

"This 'null' result was one of the great puzzles of physics at the end of the nineteenth century. One possibility was that... v would be zero and no fringe would be expected. But this implies that the Earth is somehow a preferred object only with respect to the Earth would the speed of life be 'c' as predicted by Maxwell's equations. This is tantamount to assuming that the Earth is the central body of the universe."


— Physicist, Douglas C. Giancoli

``"Michelson and Morley found shifts in the interference fringes, but they were very much smaller than the size of the effect expected from the known orbital motion of the Earth"°°

— Physicist, John D. Norton

"This conclusion directly contradicts the explanation which presupposes that the Earth moves"


― Albert Michelson (Albert A. Michelson, “The Relative Motion of the Earth and the Luminiferous Ether,” American Journal of Science, Vol. 22, August 1881, p. 125)

“The day science begins to study non-physical phenomena, it will make more progress in one decade than in all the previous centuries of its existence.”


― Nikola Tesla

Today's scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality.


― Nikola Tesla

°“If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.”


― Nikola Tesla

"Only the existence of a field of force can account for the motions of the bodies as observed"


― Nikola Tesla

"No amount of experimentation can ever prove me right; a single experiment can prove me wrong."


― Albert Einstein

“The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.”


― Nikola Tesla

“I hold that space cannot be curved, for the simple reason that it can have no properties. It might as well be said that God has properties. He has not, but only attributes and these are of our own making. Of properties we can only speak when dealing with matter filling the space. To say that in the presence of large bodies space becomes curved is equivalent to stating that something can act upon nothing. I, for one, refuse to subscribe to such a view.”


― Nikola Tesla

There is no memory or retentive faculty based on lasting impression. What we designate as memory is but increased responsiveness to repeated stimuli."


― Nikola Tesla
The history of science shows that theories are perishable. With every new truth that is revealed we get a better understanding of Nature and our conceptions and views are modified.


― Nikola Tesla

"The possibility that we have a special place in the universe is depressing to the humanist and is to be absolutely avoided."


― Professor J.F Henry, Geocentrism and Heliocentrism

"The new results are either telling us that all of science is wrong and we're the center of the universe, or maybe the data is simply incorrect" - Lawrence Krauss, 2006

"[Redshifts] would imply that we occupy a unique position in the universe, analogous, in a sense, to the ancient conception of a central Earth[...] This hypothesis cannot be disproved" - Edwin Hubble in The Observational Approach to Cosmology

"[W]e have[...] certainty regarding the stability of the Earth, situated in the center, and the motion of the sun around the Earth." - Galileo Galilei in letter to Francesco Rinuccini, March 29th, 1641

"[A]ll this evidence that the universe looks the same whichever direction we look in might seem to suggest there is something special about our place in the universe. In particular, it might seem that if we observe all other galaxies to be moving away from us, then we must be at the center of the universe[...] We [reject] it only on grounds of modesty" - Stephen Hawking in A Brief History of Time

"If the Earth were at the center of the universe, the attraction of the surrounding mass of stars would also produce redshifts wherever we looked! [This] theory seems quite consistent with our astronomical observations" - Paul Davies in Nature

"I can construct you a spherically symmetrical universe with Earth at its center, and you cannot disprove it[...] A lot of cosmology tries to hide that." - George Ellis in Scientific American

I'm not lazy to read the book lol
I have other things to do. School is a pretty important thing at my age

I'll give it a read later

I love reading

Read it. You will like it

I will

As soon as I finish Wuthering Heights

Audiobook
https://youtu.be/zKmNsHWoBts

Digital book file
https://archive.org/details/kingsdethronedhi00hickrich/page/n3

Wuthering Heights ... good story 😃

The milky way does move very fast, but we are IN the milky way, so we're moving with the Stars aswell. It's also spinning, but so are we. Because we're in the milky way aswell. The stars, even if they do move seperate from the direction everything else is moving in, won't appear to move since they are light years away.
Have a guy walk past a camera 1 ft away. He'll zip by the camera. Now have him walk past the camera, but 100 ft away. It takes way longer for him to walk past the camera, even if he starts full-sprinting.
You can have a star move at millions of miles per hour, but they are hundreds of *light years* away, and the same thing applies.

The other galaxy, Andromeda, is moving as well. It will collide with the Milky way in 4+ billion years. Pretty hard to notice in a life time.

So again..relativity

With zero evidence we are moving

The stars would have to be infinitely distant

That in fact is the claim

Read kings dethroned

The heliocentric model is built of assumptions on top of assumptions

Are you talking about how the universe is expanding too fast for us to reach anything else?
And why do the stars have to be infinitely distant?

Youve literally been arguing in lounge for the longest time and even told me to provide proof in lounge.

https://tenor.com/view/nickyoung-questionmarks-what-excuseme-huh-gif-4486363

yeah hes mad

thats why

explain this shill https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XKBe2bqCVQ

@The Gwench

Wtf do you want? 😡

lmao

@Nikita It better be good. Spit it out.

I’m waiting.

explain this shill https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XKBe2bqCVQ

https://i2.wp.com/globalfilinvestor.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Al-Jazeera%E2%80%99s-Inspiring-Documentary-on-the-Growing-Outsourcing-and-Call-Centers-in-the-Philippines1.png?fit=684%2C367

i found you in the picture

Nikita, there's like a 20 min comp of those types of launches, they all go to space Im pretty sure

https://youtu.be/a2l-qcWMCGQ

https://youtu.be/YD5ZJQgULnc

https://youtu.be/klhtoe2BHKQ

No denying that one

which one

Challenger hoax

Talk about a civil debate, pog

which video do you want me to watch

You have to be civil. I made rules like your governments to protect me

you are not being civil

im confused...

it says that was a joke

It does?

(Joke)

Government mess up

“no one is allowed to break the rules”

the government changed it

is that what happened

Too bad

I think my buddy joe did that in the call center the other day

I feel like throwing down the hammer

Civil means me telling you how dumb you are being

Shilling for government

Try reading something

What should I read

When things get hard, gotta ban amirite? 24/7 has taught you well gwench.
Z, you still haven't explained how the Australian and South American observatories are seeing the same point in the sky.

BOOKS
Enjoy!

EVIDENCE
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JjbcGgB6vjir6vkCdYpaLxXwbSUb1OAB/view?usp=sharing

FECORE HIGH POWERED LASER TESTS.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bV8hCkvT7gRFkoR6J0AY1mDwYfQR7PAg/view?usp=drivesdk

KINGS DETHRONED
https://archive.org/details/KingsDethronedAstronomyExposeGerardHickson1922

TERRA FIRMA
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/430789741634650112/431444349075587079/Terra_Firma_Not_A_Planet.pdf

ZETETIC ASTRONOMY https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/430789741634650112/431444272886185984/Zetetic_Astronomy.pdf

BIBLE EARTH https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/430789741634650112/431443766591881216/Bible_Earth.pdf

THE EARTH A PLANE
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/430789741634650112/431443743300648971/John_Quinlan_-_The_Earth_A_Plane_bw.pdf

100 PROOFS THE EARTH IS NOT A GLOBE
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/430789741634650112/431443121444749322/100_Proofs_The_Earth_Is_Not_A_Globe.pdf

PLEA FOR A FLAT EARTH
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/430789741634650112/431441999812493312/Plea_for_a_flat_earth_-_Complete_1.pdf

IS THE BIBLE FROM HEAVEN IS THE EARTH A GLOBE
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://vaultedearth.files.wordpress.com/2017/02/is-the-bible-from-heaven-is-earth-a-globe.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwi939eVhpvgAhXpGDQIHdkzBHYQFjAAegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw1XHmckF05BWiljNMaDuN_9

Audiobook
https://youtu.be/zKmNsHWoBts

Digital book file
https://archive.org/details/kingsdethronedhi00hickrich/page/n3

Dr. Ken Stoller - http://bit.ly/1MPVqLI

Dr. Mayer Eisenstein - http://bit.ly/1LLEqHH

Dr. Frank Engley, PhD - http://bit.ly/1OHbLDI

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Dr Theresa Deisher https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=6Bc6WX33SuE

Dr. Sam Eggertsen-https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8LB-3xkeDAE

@Quorum Would you like to see how well trained I am? 😁

I've learned what happens when flat earthers are given a hard fact. Ban threats (which I already knew), shotgun argumentation of link spam and definitely not answering to the fact that contridicts the flat Earth. You can ban me outta desperation now.

*falls asleep to globetard propaganda*

Nice counter argument, pogger

You are dumb as shit

k

Lol

<:giggle:485714802123997184>

😱

🖍 🚐 🍼

Can you answer my question now?

Lol.no

Guess I win

Quorum your debate skills really suck.

Read all.those books

Then I'll answer

Gwench, he literally refused to answer my simple question

Like, this is priceless

For fun read the book Age of Myth then 2nd book in series Age of War

Premature declaration of a debate win? You lose bud.

Gotta buy them tho

Isnt premature if he doesnt answer my question

Love the little mystic and her wolf

And refused to

It is immature however

Yeah, and Z is the image of mature

have you ever been on a plane

I don't even know what your question is. Dont care. Read the books

@Quorum Why are you here?

To debate.

Especially kings dethroned

Why?

I dare you.

They're interesting.

citizen have you ever been on a plane

You seem like you were damaged from vaccines

I think you’re not being honest

@Nikita stfu tard

Are you going to accuse me of being a shill again?

@Quorum shill

why cant you answer this question

You think you’ve got a sure winner here don’t you Quorum

the gwench have you been on a plane

@Quorum What’s the real reason

Yeah, I do gwench, it's Z. Calling people autistic, shills, dodging questions, refusing to answer them, etc...

Why do you care

Gwench, if youre asking me for a *real* reason, then you want to hear a specific answer

@Nikita <<Thinks being on a plane proves anything. @The Gwench

im asking you

I know why

You don’t even know why you’re here

I just explained why

Only been on a place like 30 times

where do you travel to and from

I've even flown small aircraft a few times

You lack a social life and come on here to make yourself feel better. Try to argue with retards to boost your own ego

Youre choosing not to believe me because youve presupposed the reason I want to debate here.

the gwench you cant insult people here

You are weak

There are some flat earthers that arent dumb, so...

You must have trauma about ego or something

Maybe

https://youtu.be/8zP0FU46PcE

I recognize your weakness @Quorum

citizen z's argument is non existent and relies on random links to videos without context

Nah, youve just guessed them.

Gwench, the closest to the real reason I debate here

Well this deteriorated rapidly

Is because subconsciously, I have a little goal to convince at least one flat earther

That's the closest to the truth as it gets

And its an impossible goal

bc when people debate like Z and you with ban threats

Watch the video and read the books