Message from @Citizen Z

Discord ID: 550464072253177866


2019-02-27 23:39:38 UTC  

You really don't understand the distances involved, do you?

2019-02-27 23:39:57 UTC  

If you could show me movement, you would debunk relativity

2019-02-27 23:40:14 UTC  

You should read kings dethroned

2019-02-27 23:40:28 UTC  

You should explain how that would debunk relativity.

2019-02-27 23:40:30 UTC  

The distances are assumed to be infinitely distant

2019-02-27 23:40:45 UTC  

Relativity means you cant tell

2019-02-27 23:40:52 UTC  

You cant see us moving

2019-02-27 23:41:03 UTC  

Read kings dethroned

2019-02-27 23:41:11 UTC  

You would like it

2019-02-27 23:41:19 UTC  

It was written by a glober

2019-02-27 23:41:35 UTC  

It's not a flat earth book

2019-02-27 23:41:37 UTC  

Relativity means you can't tell what?

2019-02-27 23:41:48 UTC  

It explains everything I'm talking about

2019-02-27 23:41:53 UTC  

Also, are we talking about the same relativity?

2019-02-27 23:42:10 UTC  

Let me get you a few quotes

2019-02-27 23:42:33 UTC  

Or you could just clear up what you're trying to say

2019-02-27 23:42:37 UTC  

That would be nice too

2019-02-27 23:46:33 UTC  

Here is just a few

2019-02-27 23:47:26 UTC  

If you are to lazy to read a 91 page book you shouldn't be trying to argue your belief system

2019-02-27 23:47:38 UTC  

"The data [of Michelson-Morley] were almost unbelievable...There was only one other possible conclusion to draw — that the Earth was at rest."


— Physicist, Bernard Jaffe

2019-02-27 23:47:41 UTC  

"As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain, and as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality."


― Albert Einstein

2019-02-27 23:47:44 UTC  

"Soon I came to the conclusion that our idea about the motion of the Earth with respect to the ether is incorrect, if we admit Michelson's null result as a fact. This was the first path which led me to the special theory of relativity."


— Albert Einstein

"I have come to believe that the motion of the Earth cannot be detected by any optical experiment, though the Earth is revolving around the Sun."


— Albert Einstein

2019-02-27 23:47:46 UTC  

"This 'null' result was one of the great puzzles of physics at the end of the nineteenth century. One possibility was that... v would be zero and no fringe would be expected. But this implies that the Earth is somehow a preferred object only with respect to the Earth would the speed of life be 'c' as predicted by Maxwell's equations. This is tantamount to assuming that the Earth is the central body of the universe."


— Physicist, Douglas C. Giancoli

2019-02-27 23:47:48 UTC  

``"Michelson and Morley found shifts in the interference fringes, but they were very much smaller than the size of the effect expected from the known orbital motion of the Earth"°°

— Physicist, John D. Norton

2019-02-27 23:47:50 UTC  

"This conclusion directly contradicts the explanation which presupposes that the Earth moves"


― Albert Michelson (Albert A. Michelson, “The Relative Motion of the Earth and the Luminiferous Ether,” American Journal of Science, Vol. 22, August 1881, p. 125)

2019-02-27 23:47:53 UTC  

“The day science begins to study non-physical phenomena, it will make more progress in one decade than in all the previous centuries of its existence.”


― Nikola Tesla

Today's scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality.


― Nikola Tesla

°“If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.”


― Nikola Tesla

"Only the existence of a field of force can account for the motions of the bodies as observed"


― Nikola Tesla

"No amount of experimentation can ever prove me right; a single experiment can prove me wrong."


― Albert Einstein

2019-02-27 23:47:55 UTC  

“The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.”


― Nikola Tesla

“I hold that space cannot be curved, for the simple reason that it can have no properties. It might as well be said that God has properties. He has not, but only attributes and these are of our own making. Of properties we can only speak when dealing with matter filling the space. To say that in the presence of large bodies space becomes curved is equivalent to stating that something can act upon nothing. I, for one, refuse to subscribe to such a view.”


― Nikola Tesla

There is no memory or retentive faculty based on lasting impression. What we designate as memory is but increased responsiveness to repeated stimuli."


― Nikola Tesla
The history of science shows that theories are perishable. With every new truth that is revealed we get a better understanding of Nature and our conceptions and views are modified.


― Nikola Tesla

2019-02-27 23:47:58 UTC  

"The possibility that we have a special place in the universe is depressing to the humanist and is to be absolutely avoided."


― Professor J.F Henry, Geocentrism and Heliocentrism

2019-02-27 23:48:00 UTC  

"The new results are either telling us that all of science is wrong and we're the center of the universe, or maybe the data is simply incorrect" - Lawrence Krauss, 2006

2019-02-27 23:48:02 UTC  

"[Redshifts] would imply that we occupy a unique position in the universe, analogous, in a sense, to the ancient conception of a central Earth[...] This hypothesis cannot be disproved" - Edwin Hubble in The Observational Approach to Cosmology

2019-02-27 23:48:04 UTC  

"[W]e have[...] certainty regarding the stability of the Earth, situated in the center, and the motion of the sun around the Earth." - Galileo Galilei in letter to Francesco Rinuccini, March 29th, 1641

2019-02-27 23:48:06 UTC  

"[A]ll this evidence that the universe looks the same whichever direction we look in might seem to suggest there is something special about our place in the universe. In particular, it might seem that if we observe all other galaxies to be moving away from us, then we must be at the center of the universe[...] We [reject] it only on grounds of modesty" - Stephen Hawking in A Brief History of Time

2019-02-27 23:48:08 UTC  

"If the Earth were at the center of the universe, the attraction of the surrounding mass of stars would also produce redshifts wherever we looked! [This] theory seems quite consistent with our astronomical observations" - Paul Davies in Nature

2019-02-27 23:48:11 UTC  

"I can construct you a spherically symmetrical universe with Earth at its center, and you cannot disprove it[...] A lot of cosmology tries to hide that." - George Ellis in Scientific American

2019-02-27 23:48:27 UTC  

I'm not lazy to read the book lol
I have other things to do. School is a pretty important thing at my age

2019-02-27 23:48:31 UTC  

I'll give it a read later

2019-02-27 23:48:34 UTC  

I love reading

2019-02-27 23:48:43 UTC  

Read it. You will like it

2019-02-27 23:48:52 UTC  

I will

2019-02-27 23:48:58 UTC  

As soon as I finish Wuthering Heights