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2019-02-25 20:12:05 UTC

You want to redefine the word man. I see no reason to follow suit

2019-02-25 20:38:28 UTC

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2019-02-25 20:38:36 UTC

Yeah that's kinda eh

2019-02-25 21:37:37 UTC

How hard is it to Google the meaning of words? I guess it's easier to stay wrong and use the "fake" card 24/7 isn't it.

2019-02-25 21:40:40 UTC

Sex: "either of the two main categories (male and female) into which humans and most other living things are divided on the basis of their reproductive functions."

Gender: "either of the two sexes (male and female), especially when considered with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones. The term is also used more broadly to denote a range of identities that do not correspond to established ideas of male and female."

2019-02-25 21:41:10 UTC

There is no "redefining" the words when they're straight from the definitions.

2019-02-25 22:59:09 UTC

What sourc urban dictionary?

2019-02-25 22:59:52 UTC

Either way, the only useful definition is the one based on biology

2019-02-25 23:46:40 UTC

It also isn't as simple as binary, there are intersex people out there where their exact biological sex is ambiguous. Regarding gender, there are multiple possible gender identities. Altho masculine and feminine is the dominant binary, and is applied to the sexes.

2019-02-25 23:58:10 UTC

Google the definitions. I admire your ability to pick and choose which facts are correct and which facts aren't, based on your beliefs.

2019-02-25 23:59:53 UTC

Sex is biological. Gender is social. Hence, trans*gender*. You can redefine English words or decide they don't exist if you want.

2019-02-26 00:06:22 UTC

Transgender is not a gender

2019-02-26 00:08:51 UTC

I don't think they meant that, just that the term refers to something malleable.

2019-02-26 00:09:04 UTC

But also, there is Transsexual

2019-02-26 00:09:17 UTC

Not a gender.

2019-02-26 00:09:41 UTC

That's a sexual deviants preference

2019-02-26 00:10:52 UTC

It being someone who changed their gender identity along with medical assistance to change some characteristics, a subset of transgender

2019-02-26 00:12:08 UTC

Not a gender.

2019-02-26 00:12:24 UTC

Gender is either Male or female.

2019-02-26 00:12:43 UTC

This is not complicated

2019-02-26 00:12:43 UTC

Nobody is arguing that transgender is a gender

2019-02-26 00:13:23 UTC

Okay. That makes sense then.

2019-02-26 00:17:18 UTC

Being transgender means that your identified gender is not the same as your assigned gender

2019-02-26 00:19:43 UTC

That makes no sense

2019-02-26 00:20:18 UTC

You cant just identify as something you are not

2019-02-26 00:20:34 UTC

That would mean you have a disorder

2019-02-26 00:21:52 UTC

Do you have real evidence for this or are these just your feelings?

2019-02-26 00:22:12 UTC

Plenty of studies

2019-02-26 00:23:00 UTC

Can I identify as a native American if I'm not?

2019-02-26 00:23:21 UTC

Can I identify as a war veteran if I'm not?

2019-02-26 00:23:34 UTC

The problem here is entirely a semantic one

2019-02-26 00:23:56 UTC

The problem is people encouraging destructive behavior

2019-02-26 00:24:21 UTC

I, like people who support the idea of being transgender, define gender in a more commonly accepted definition of being more social and mental

2019-02-26 00:24:26 UTC

Trying to identify as a different gender is destructive

2019-02-26 00:24:40 UTC

You choose to use the less commonly used version based on biology

2019-02-26 00:24:47 UTC

The definition was changed

2019-02-26 00:24:53 UTC

Citizen do you know what gender dysphoria is?

2019-02-26 00:25:08 UTC

You are using a made up urban type dictionary definition

2019-02-26 00:25:25 UTC

Someone who thinks they are another gender

2019-02-26 00:25:46 UTC

"The modern academic sense of the word, in the context of social roles of men and women, dates at least back to 1945"

2019-02-26 00:25:56 UTC

You seem to think definitions cannot change

2019-02-26 00:25:59 UTC

Sure it does.

2019-02-26 00:26:18 UTC

I dont believe your sick interpretation

2019-02-26 00:26:20 UTC

Is there a central authority that declares whether a definition is accurate?

2019-02-26 00:26:33 UTC

Tell me citizen, do you know what gender dysphoria is?

2019-02-26 00:26:36 UTC

You are damaging people.

2019-02-26 00:26:47 UTC

By encouraging this behavior

2019-02-26 00:27:10 UTC

I posted many things about gender dysphoria

2019-02-26 00:27:17 UTC

I just told you what it is

2019-02-26 00:28:10 UTC

This is debatable

2019-02-26 00:28:13 UTC

"Gender nonconformity is ***not*** a mental disorder"

2019-02-26 00:28:14 UTC

It is a medical condition

2019-02-26 00:28:17 UTC

It is not a choice

2019-02-26 00:28:26 UTC

And it is entirely treatable

2019-02-26 00:28:39 UTC

Emphasis mine

2019-02-26 00:29:15 UTC

The caveat? The only working treatment is transitioning

2019-02-26 00:29:42 UTC

How is trying to identify as a different gender "destructive"?

2019-02-26 00:29:59 UTC

Regarding gender nonconformity

2019-02-26 00:31:10 UTC

They remove this

2019-02-26 00:31:24 UTC

Just 7 years ago

2019-02-26 00:31:34 UTC

Trying to repress dysphoria or live as your assigned gender is definitely self destructive

2019-02-26 00:31:41 UTC

Transitioning is the opposite

2019-02-26 00:32:08 UTC

So 7 years ago medical professionals said that it **wasn't** a mental illness?

2019-02-26 00:32:50 UTC

Interesting turn of events there

2019-02-26 00:34:35 UTC

@Citizen Z hilarious that I agree with you on this gender thing, because I think you're a bafoon for believing in flat earth

2019-02-26 00:35:39 UTC

You dont know why the earth is flat then

2019-02-26 00:35:49 UTC

Well it's not

2019-02-26 00:36:01 UTC

You dont understand

2019-02-26 00:36:04 UTC

I don't know what why means in that context

2019-02-26 00:36:10 UTC

At work tho

2019-02-26 00:36:12 UTC

Bbl

2019-02-26 00:36:18 UTC

I'm not convinced by your data

2019-02-26 00:36:22 UTC

It's all flimsy

2019-02-26 00:47:53 UTC

What measurements do you have that says the earth curves at 8 inches per mile squared? @Shabam

2019-02-26 00:48:07 UTC

I will get my data, you get yours. Deal?

2019-02-26 00:49:23 UTC

Here is my data. I dont know where you got the term flimsy from.

2019-02-26 00:50:23 UTC

I look forward to your data. I assume you won't be giving my "flimsy" data.

2019-02-26 00:50:31 UTC

What would the purpose be of withholding this information?

2019-02-26 00:50:59 UTC

First off, it's best to look at all evidence before motive.

2019-02-26 00:51:18 UTC

Trying to find a motive is difficult. We can only speculate

2019-02-26 00:51:34 UTC

What are your best guesses?

2019-02-26 00:51:36 UTC

There is a number of reasons I could guess

2019-02-26 00:52:06 UTC

It seems weird, because it could be said any day and people would still go on about their daily lives

2019-02-26 00:52:16 UTC

Money. power. Hide knowledge. Hide a creator. More land.. more resources. Free energy.

2019-02-26 00:52:34 UTC

Control.

2019-02-26 00:52:54 UTC

The best way to have control and power is keep your enemy blind

2019-02-26 00:53:13 UTC

Can you specify how? Im just curious because i believe it is a globe.

2019-02-26 00:53:21 UTC

How what?

2019-02-26 00:54:02 UTC

Im curious to see what it is that makes you think that hiding a flat earth as a fact leads to control.

2019-02-26 00:54:41 UTC

I just told you

2019-02-26 00:54:51 UTC

Either way. I am only guessing.

2019-02-26 00:54:58 UTC

Look at the evidence

2019-02-26 00:55:05 UTC

That's what matters

2019-02-26 00:55:28 UTC

When enough people see it and know it, then we can possibly find out why

2019-02-26 00:56:07 UTC

If they hide the fact that you were created, they have power over you

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