supposedly got to the moon in 69 thru 72

haven't been back since

you never said why we would go back

we have a better reason to go back to the moon than we would for shooting a car into space

@Livxly Dxll Okay, so what if I claim that the fact we went to the Moon is brute? That we just have?

rockets just don't work in space

a) that was SpaceX and Elon Musk's massive ego b) there is none, glad we can sort that out

Isnt Elon Musk going to send a bunch of artists up or somethin?

he can send a football team up into space, that doesn't mean that they are going there

it just means that people can be tricked

i dont really give a fuck about Musk, he is over hyped and has a massive ego

haha and he smokes weed so

don't listen to him

nothing wrong with weed kitty

You can say that about any rich businessmen really...

Typical weed people

according to Musk, it has to be real because it looks so fake

smoake woad

😂

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why were all the moon stuff filmed in black and white?

we had color back when it was filmed

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because color takes up more space on film and is more exspensive

and the cameras are bigger

and more exspensive

or it looks more realistic in black and white

expense wasn't an issue

True that

weight was an issue

tru

the hell are you on about, more expensive? They spent like 140billion

163*

why does it not seem like there is a gravity issue on the moon in the footage?

yeah and color cameras/film would be a needless exspense

you double the speed of the film and it looks like its filmed on earth

why does it look like the people filmed on the moon have harnesses attached to them

one can be spotted being lifted by it when he falls

Good example of wires here https://youtu.be/Zz9Bzi_GyD0

he goes from a kneeling position to a standing position without help from the other astronaut and clearly not his own power

Needless expense? Are you kidding me? It's humanity's supposed greatest accomplishment, like they're supposed to land on the moon and they should've also included the colored cameras too, which they previously even used on earth to film some of their test footages? I'll tell you why they didn't include it and it's because it's easier to fake the footage and make people not focus too much on the questionable details that people pointed out.

its also a lot heavier the a black and white camera

We're talking about 163 billion here, like you can't even fanthom or even have a picture of how much money that actually is and for the time, you could get a lot done with that.

they are trying to trick people, black and white seems more realistic

ok, just ignore the other thing i brought up, cool

also, where is this $163 billion coming from?

you can add color post production too

i am not citizing i am just curious where it is from and how long period

From mostly the popular/mainstream websites, you can check christopherrcooper and there are also various charts

many non filmed black and white films were added color after the fact

i have found the apollo program cost 100 billion

Space Shuttle 200

Space Station 70

Exploration 50

https://history.nasa.gov/SP-4029/Apollo_18-16_Apollo_Program_Budget_Appropriations.htm

Prices prices

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT3ferYrmgU

interesting, thank you light

but, again you said nothing about my claim they are heavier

shadows show its filmed on a movie set

movie/stages arent lit from the side

they are when they trying to fake the sun

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so flat earthers have started filming horizon in infrared

can see 475 miles away?

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwuxNdg8dTE> for reference this is the video of globe busters with this pic in it

Flat Earth - I Can See for Miles and Miles...

**Apollo 11** A comprehensive set of camera equipment was carried on board Apollo 11. **This included two 16mm Maurer motion picture film cameras, a color television camera in the orbiting Columbia**, and a *black and white TV camera outside of the lunar module to transmit to Earth Neil Armstrong's first steps on the Moon's surface.* A Kodak stereo close-up camera was used to film the lunar soil from only inches away. Three Hasselblad 500EL cameras were carried.

ok, how about the transmission equipment

Looks like Mars - do like NASA and "add" red tint to "view what it looks like"

cause if i remember correctly the way they had to trasmite the data was in a weird frequency

its all lies

NASA lies

Those cameras that they used, including the dual 16mm Maurer motion picture film cameras were already huge by themselves, and they don't look that bigger compared to the other ones that they carried. As far as the transmission equipment goes, the whole supposed conversation from the Moon into the Oval office is not only virtually impossible at the time, but it's still impossible now. You can't even get some signal in some areas of the earth, let alone try doing it from the Moon.

constantly

and consistantly

wasnt it sent to australia first then the signal was played on a screen, then that was filmed on regualr TV frequency and that broadcast

that is why the picture looks weird for the landing

I like how Nixon has a normal convo with these astronauts when they are on the moon and now they are under a 10 sec delay to the ISS

someone tell NASA that the moon is further than 250 miles of ISS

Data Storage Equipment (DSE). To make the supposed recordings possible, they claim that they used something called a Data Storage Electronics Assembly, which even if you look into the official explanation, they're trying to explain it away how it should've been virtually impossible, but due to certain atmosphrenic circumstances, it was able to and I quote; *As a result, many of its recordings are barely, if at all, audible, with a constant high-pitched background tone. In the attached database, the recordings that are virtually inaudible are highlighted*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tG6yTft6Cfw

Nope, they didn't go to the moon, its pretty obvious

I mean it's impossible with all the technology and improvements we have made so far upto late 2018 into transmitters, strenghtening the signals in-between access points, etc...so to think that, they easily pulled something like that back in the late 60s/early 70s, it just doesn't add up.

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NASA LIES +1

And to make my self clear, this has nothing to do with the shape of the earth argument, which is what most people turn it into. People are still free to to think that they have scientific resources to back up the sphericity of the Earth, like that is not the point when it comes to the moon landings.

Van allen radiation belt we cannot get past, lost telemetry data on man's greatest accomplishment....

People are entitled to think as they wish, it's none of my business.

well, there is a reason why we cannot get to the moon

Fimament blocks us from getting out of enclosed system

o yeah, i agree, nothing to do with the shape of the earth

We have a ceiling

~~also if you dont think what i think you are wrong and stupid~~

I never said that

At the end of the day, we are born here and we die here...most of us won't go beyond 35k feet of altitude.

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just buy an SR-71

simple

Better to know the truth dying then die blind

I think one of the strongest elements that we have is the fact that globes were put into brainwash centers/schools to indoctrinate young minds who believe in santa clause to also believe in the fake globe

if it was real, you wouldn't have to put globes into schools

eh, better eat good food

its fake, they want to brainwash you early

Speaking of food, I definitely need to spoil myself with some good food today

they don't have good arguements for us to actually be on a globe, you look at the arguements for and against and its clearly the case that we live on flat earth is overwhelmingly abundant

whlie living on a globe is flimsy and easily disproved

i am slightly bumbed my dorm doesnt access to an oven

the whole ship myth is just that, its fake like the globe

you can zoom in on ships that go over a fake horizon from limited human view proving this is not a valid proof that we live on a globe, but instead that we live on a flat earth

i like making cupcakes v.v

we can see too far

Sweet cupcakes

yes

Sinking Ship Effect:

The horizon on a flat plane is a consequence of the plane meeting the observer’s line of sight at less than a minute of a degree. The ground is not visible beyond that point, because the angle of view is too shallow. However, the angle of a line straight through the mast and top of the boat form a broader angle and so can be seen while the ground is not visible, so the boat disappears below the horizon bottom first. Eventually, the angle becomes too shallow to resolve the entire boat, when the top of the boat makes an angle with the plane at less than a minute of a degree.

It is verifiable that increasing resolution actually can restore the hulls of ships again, demonstrating that it is not the curve of the Earth that is obscuring the hull, but rather the resolution limits of optics. The law of perspective dictates that objects distant on a plane will appear to disappear bottom first, due to the increasingly shallow angle at farther distances with higher points.

An example of this observation can be seen here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFhhCYYkILw
You can see the bottom of the ship appear to melt into the horizon as if it is being diffracted and not clearly resolved.
This makes another flat earth justification, and also explains why objects appear to be obscured by the horizon. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/458194824911126541/458284527308111882/ship-2.jpg

peanut butter fluffernutter icing 🤤

It's like almost 5 in the morning, Thursday

eastern europe?

yea

still 1 hour behind me, for them it's like 03:41AM

I woke up at around like 1 AM, since the second I got home, took a shower, ate something and then literally fell asleep

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you need a cupcake

I'm so horrible in the kitchen, like need to get myself a housewife...I can only cook pasta, soup and just the basics

i suggest not baking then

good thing i'm lucky enough to have something going on for now, so hopefully 2019 will be a good year for me

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yeah, i am looking forward to 2019

Yeah, just another year to go through...it's literally just a +1 into my age, I guess not a lot will change

although I always say that, but I end up looking back

nah, a new year, new things to experience

yeah

It might feel unlikely as of now, but in one year from now, we will see all the new things we've experienced, etc.

hopefully i will have an internship at the Smithsonian, some interesting classes,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzF3STBWHt4 according to this video, Star Wars is dead

i enjoyed the last jedi

this guy is comparing star wars 4 billion dollar bet to bill cosby level of bad

what? Disney did amazing on that deal

business perspective says he doesn't see them getting another 2 billion from a movie

o no

now he's talking about hippos and saying that a slow hippo isn't going to get thru some barrier

its not going fast enough

apology - a star wars story

his point of that people don't care what happens to these characters anymore is valid, we don't care. I don't plan to see this next movie.

i see star wars for the settings, i dont really care about most of the characters in star wars

fans who saw last jedi are pissed

i am not, i enjoyed it

according to this guy, general public thinks these are bad movies

general public checked out

and Holdo's death, holy fuck that scene was beautiful

hardcore fans -> going to skip this next movie

normal fans -> luke warm

i probably a more hardcore fan then most,

I'm a diehard star wars fan and last Jedi is my second favourite of the films

Its a masterpiece

i have read most of the star wars books

the cinematography is amazing in last jedi

SJW is the 2 out of 100 people that they cattered to. they like it

what do you mean

according to this guy

oh

social justice warriors

well then he is a fool

the last Jedi is amazing no matter who you are

too many don't like it

people have way to high exspectations

Only one bad scene in it really but luckily its not that long

no one cares about the next movie -> Ryan ruined it

pff, people will go see the next one, if they say they arent they are lying

I'm not going to see it

why not

trust me, I don't care about this mary sue or the story

luke was a mary sue too lol

thats the point of the heros journey

no, luke practiced for his skills

and so did rey

he spent many movies practicing

lol

Rey didn't practice at all, she was good at everything

from the get go

did we watch the same movie

"spent movies practicing" literally a big plot point is that he skipped his training

rey cant control herself which is why she needs lukes help in TLJ

he was busy training

she is powerful with the force but shes not able to use it like a Jedi

she uses it like a sith, for raw power

she is good at everything with no training

and you know what, Luke did jack shit with the force

name 2 cool things luke did with the force

I don't care about her tranny butt or what they do with their propaganda movie

Lifted some rocks

ok

kevin is blocked

hehe

cannot handle the truth

she's a tranny

i never like star wars for the characters or plot

i do lol

cause in all honestly, the plot and the characters kinda suck apart from maybe vader and han

but i understand what you mean

Whaddya guys think of Star Trek then?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idpEe6aFR5c

Haven't seen it

GET THE FUCK OUT WITH THAT SHIT SPOOKIER

lol

figured

nah, jk

i like nexxt generation

Picard is pretty good

Kirk was more macho imo

i can not watch the roginal star trek

I find it pretty humurous

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5LvLRj9WtU

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf0oXY4nDxE

The issue with Rey is that

Roughly speaking, she falls outside the usual societal hierarchies of the hero. Now that's not a bad thing. But once it compels speech, it becomes enforced. It becomes dogma.

And that's chaos.

Check this petition I found.. https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/stop-collective-punishment-minorities-south-africa

she was just given her power, she didn't earn it

so, to one of the most important facts besides flat earth, star wars franchise is dying, Disney killed it

https://amos37.com/the-disney-deception/

Well the core of the Hero's Journey is making the decision with the power; becoming your logos. Earning it isn't necessary. The idea that it would be necessary is something Foucault would say.

Look at how damage the Marxists caused!

you don't get good at something without practice

look at tiger woods, yes he had a gift for golfing, but he also had tons of practice

you can't just be good at everything, even with practice, she is

https://www.quora.com/Is-Rey-still-a-Mary-Sue-in-The-Last-Jedi

That's the thing.

It's about building skills for life. But not for Rey. She's the role-model in a sub-religious narrative structure. The meaning of this doesn't exist in a vacuum.

not sure what you mean

It's unexplored territory.

What I'm trying to do is open your mind. That's what I'm attempting to do, unlike the Postmodernists.

https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/7knkb5/rey_is_a_mary_sue/

That's the thing about Mary Sues. They're a residual promulgation of the Judeo-Christian Ethic.

Roughly speaking, Jung would call this an archetype.

in the next movie she is going to spontaneously perform heart surgery to save a life and then fly like superman around the world to reverse time to save a planet blown up by a death star.

you heard it here first

I would watch it

https://youtu.be/zWwaloPiMfI

ugh im bored

anything interesting besides FE, or science rubbish to debate about?

That's not a very scientific experiment lol. Wolfie is full of sh#t

are you a conspiracy theorist magneto?

I prefer the term truthseeker but yes

you should take some of the roles in self-assign-roles

Basically I lean towards earth being concave

Yeah I will do