Livxly Dxll (Discord ID: 174928016986734592), page 1


139 total messages. Viewing 250 per page.
Page 1/1

2018-08-30 20:36:15 UTC [The Ice Wall #members-log]  

They still get away with it, nothing has changed.

I highly doubt that anything will change for the better, it's a rigged game and probably meant to stay as such.

As far as the origins go, it's down to philosophizing and trying to make sense of different theories, we don't know for sure

I believe it's a creation of the Demiurge

The Demiurge is basically the Creator of the material world, and it is represented with different names through different religions and/or ancient cultures, but the Demiurge is a dualistic fool in my opinion, and might as well be The Devil Himself so to speak. They snapped at the realization that, they are not capable of creating perfection, because they are imperfect themselves and I might sound harsh, but that's just my two cents.

The only difference is that, some believe it was created perfectly but then later on it was corrupted, but I believe it always meant to be imperfect and it will stay as such imo.

I mean, just think about it for a second, watching the world get worse by each day and on top of all that, that thing can see all the suffering, and the ridiculousness that is occuring...people will just say; "Oh, but you have free-will, which also allows for evil, so...The Creator can't come back immediately and punish you for every sin that you commit, or else people would worship it out of fear, (not that they aren't doing that already) so because we have free-will, it also allows for people to commit some pretty sick things", but I definitely don't remember having any free-will choices to come here, unless that memory was erased , nor did I have an option not to be sinless, because I was already given a corrupt flesh, which I'm meant to supposedly fight it constantly, so I don't sin...just because somebody was not competent enough to create me perfect and to be sinless, you don't need to be a pre-programmed puppet robot, you could've been given a sinless spirit, but nah...you were sent back to this hellhole anyway, and then on top of all that, you have to go through guilt-trips, etc

Well, it depends on what you get off of really

It's not my cup of tea

It's getting more ridiculous by the day, and you can't see it? People are being brainwashed, desensitized, and mind-controlled. Most people are debt-slaves and they work themselves off to death, and innocent people are suffering because a bunch of greedy old hags want to make profit.

*were*

The situation was still better back then, because at least they knew that they were slaves lol

But hey, a best slave is one who thinks that its free, and it will perform more in that mindset, so no need for further whipping.

But yeah, you go do me a favor and read some Jewish-mysticism and see how religious you are, alright bud? Thanks.

Yes, you.

This has nothing to do with the subject, you still haven't realized that everything you've hook line & sinked has an older origin, but just because they call it; "scientific", therefore it must be so. No need for experiments or anything, just follow your disciples and follow the good news of scientism.

I gotta admit, they are fucking brilliant lol

I already have my own business going, but I do plan on purchasing some land and working on a farm and it is a good idea actually, I do want to grow some farm food.

Still gotta stabilize myself

What's wrong with using tools that were invented by mechanical engineers? It's no harm to use some modern-day technology and I wasn't talking about unconscious objects.

I personally don't live in the United States at the moment, nor do I care about the the 32d Scottish rite *Founding Fathers*, I'm good.

Thanks for the recommendation, but I'm alright.

The DNA Structure looks like 2 serpents combined together to me

The only actual scientifically verifiable type of *Evolution* is microevolution, which is basically just smaller evolutionary changes. For an example, dogs still breed dogs, but there can be different types of dog breeds. Anything else is just pseudoscientific hoax stories for the gullible to hook line and sink, and to praise their new apeman religion under the false notion of so called; " 21st century science" which has very little to do with observation, experimentation and repetition these days.

@I-VaPE-ChEMtrAiLS I'm not a religious person, but I can already tell that you know very little about the Abrahamic faiths. In Judaism, they only believe in the first-five books of the Old Testament, which they call the; "Torah" and they believe in only YHWH god deity, which I would consider to be the Demiurge=El Saturn himself. In Islam, they also believe in only 1 god, however, Allah is not truly personal, knowable, or approachable. The Qur’an depicts him more judgmental than gracious. He exists as a singular unity who has no *partners.* In fact, to call Jesus the Son of God is to commit the unpardonable sin, or shirk. Of the 99 names for God in the Qur’an, Father is not one of them. In Islam, it is considered blasphemous to *presume* that one can know God or claim any sort of close, personal fellowship with Allah. He reveals his will, not himself. The Bible depicts God as He knows us; but more than that, He is knowable and approachable. He created us in His image with personality, thought, and will for the purpose of enjoying an everlasting, unbreakable, intimate relationship with Him. He exists as a Trinity in eternal relationship as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. In fact, God is so knowable, He came in the flesh as Jesus of Nazareth according to the Christian teachings, so they are not the same "God", when you take different personalities and Jesus into consideration, but I myself do have some crticism of the OT & some of the NT passages, and I believe that they seem to be having a connection with what the Gnostics would refer to as the Demiurge, but just under different names/cultures.

@I-VaPE-ChEMtrAiLS Being a Theist doesn't equate to religion. If you're still stuck in that materialist mentality and think of it as just Atheism vs Religion, maybe you should look into neuroscience & choose neither pills. I'm an idealist, because I know for a fact that there is more to reality than meets the eye. And yeah, the Abrahamic god is presented/mentioned in all three, but particularly in the Old Testament, however, I look at the whole deity of Christ from a Gnostic perspective and to me, YHWH is not the Father that Jesus was speaking of, and I would argue that it's what the Gnostics would refer to as the Demiurge, and the same goes for Allah. Not all Gnostics are the same, in fact, some think that the entire deity of Jesus is too good to be true or just another set of traps to put you in guilt-trip in compairson, but from my perspective - He was sent by the real Father that we don't even know its name of, and to bring knowledge = gnosis onto the ignorant and for those that are willing to go on a pursuit of genuine truth, and to try getting out of this 3D hellhole, which I don't believe to be our first experience...perhaps the whole notion of some people remembering past lives, the sensation of Deja vu, etc...would be clues and in 101 Gnosticism, people who don't get it right won't be damned for eternity the way the Abrahamic faiths would put it, but instead, be tortured till they forget their memories & be given countless amount of chances till they get it right, but the consequences will be different...perhaps they will be born into the rougher areas of the world and suffer more for whatever particular reason it might be, but that is just speculation. I look at the entire experience as a form of reconcilation.

And sorry for this long post btw.

But yeah, I try to stay away from ideas that put you in a box of fear and the conditions are; "Either this, or you're damned", because it sounds like what exactly the Demiurge would do to keep the unilluminated in-check and what @Ætos's saying is true.

But yeah, there are some truths in the Exoteric religions to keep people still interested, but just enough to keep them still as blind men walking upon outer darkness from my perspective. I'm more into the Esoteric ideas and there's a reason that, they've given religious people a preconceived notion about this, and they immediately think that we're into child-ritual sacrifices, cannibalism and all sorts of sickening sutff that only people who are into the darker arts would commit. There's already enough misery in this world as it is, so I'm not interested in that aspect.

Reality check, your average Joe doesn't run the court system. There's a reason as to why it's called a *Criminal Justice* system, because the criminals punish the just, and not the other way around.

Delivers justice to the criminals my ass

They should've handcuffed themsleves a long time ago

Not just any, like sure...you can easily sue some nobody organization if you have enough solid evidence, and hire a decent lawyer

Yeah? So? Labelling doesn't prove anything, I don't believe things that I'm just told like a good muppet.

Oh look, another Zionist.

You're a fucking moron if you think that, they were burning jews in Auswitz. Do you even understand the Esoteric significance behind the 6 gorillion figure? Have you even done the math? Do you even know the relationship inbetween the Nazis and the Zionists? Ever heard about the Balfour Decloration? Do you know about the merged currency between both of them called Khronen? Do you even know that, if it wasn't for that bullshitass hoax story, there would be no such thing as the land of Is-ra-el.

You're a fucking moron if you think that, they would just gather a certain ethnic group and burn them for fun, just because they had deep-seeded racism towards them. Why do you think that the so-called jews were kicked out of like what? 107 nations?

Was it because all of the nations were twisted, or maybe....just maybe those so-called jews were doing filthy shit like pedophilia, and have you even read the Talmud?

You should read some of the Talmudic scriptures that they believe in

Yeah, that's called cognitive dissonance. You haven't done a damn research in your life to save your own ass, just going by the Government approved textbooks that give their own version of HIS-STORY.

Total muppetry

Sitting your ass down at an indoctrination center doesn't prove jacksquash.

I'm done for now, fucking idiot.

Were you there? Have you listened to the supposed victims on tape who were milking inconsistent shit as they went? Kinda like that fucking woman who claimed to have survived her lover in the prison by throwing him and apple per day...

Yeah, were you?

Lemme guess

It was your grandmother

No, I'm just asking a genuine question. It does take faith to just believe in shit that doesn't even add up.

No thanks mr. thought police

Go somewhere else if you can't handle ideas that contradict your own beLIEf-bubble.

Let me tell you something,

I'm not denying that such years existed

Yes, the earth is old, but you can't tell how old it exactly is, just like how you can't tell how the earth came to be, or what's going to happen when you're finally going to rot away. Those are down to just theories

You're talking about carbon-dating, right?

Why the fuck are they finding wet tissues then?

I thought the earth is quintillion years old.

Look Joe,

Just because something is not on the latest trending science-cover magazine, it doesn't mean it's not true. Going off by what just the populus believes, is not how actual true science operates.

You can't go into a laboratory, put on a white lab coat and observe, experiment and repeat such thing all over again.

Claiming such figures is basically talking out of your ass

If anyone believes the dinosaurs are millions of years old. They have been completely brainwashed. They can only carbon date bones up to a few thousand years old. The rest is a guess. They still find flesh on some bones. It don't matter what it is. 65 million years is a long time and nothing could last that long. They use 65 million years to explain how something came from nothing and people buy this bullshit. The Bing Bang theory was invented by a Catholic Priest called, Georges Lemaître.

Excellent argument

You can't disprove all Geology together, you got to be more specific.

Hugh, go punch a wall if you can't control your tempers. Either say something that actually has any meaning, or just stay quiet for now.

I'm having a discussion with baller

Yes, of course there are different isotopes that can be used as a method for dating things back. Like radiogenic, anstropogenic, cosmogenic, and other methods to do so.

Baller,

Before you make a claim,

it's good to show me the data

The numbers, the figures, the exact experiment

It's easy to just read a book and memorize it, but how about you go actually one step further and see how one comes down to a such conclusion.

My issue is not with the source, and you can choose your favorite *peer-reviewed* articles for all I care right now,

choose the one that you think is the best suitable.

That is not an exepriment, it's called a description.

I'm still waiting.

Yes, from the start to the finish

The exat data

The numbers, figures and the exact mathematical calculation which results in such conclusion

Never said you have to go and do it now,

they should be already out?

It's 2018, right?

Surely the 21st century priesthood of scientists have already done those experiments

Why else would they be told a fact in our textbooks?

It's all good man,

You can add me

and I'll wait for like

as long as you want

Not in a hurry at all

More ad-hominem, classic.

We'll have a civil discussions and go back and forth,

I will change my mindset once I see like enough evidence for such figures.

I would love if the earth is actually billions of years old

Don't make assumptions about an individual that you know nothing about

Baller is way more mature than your ass

Yes, correct

I don't have the patience and tolerance with your types either

It's no fun just being a keyboard warrior online

BeLIEf is a strong word out there, so don't throw it like it's nothing.

That's fine man, take care

I'm reading it as we speak

One minute, finishing a debate

2018-10-18 00:43:19 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484514023698726912/502280482621358140/sqr.png

2018-10-18 00:47:14 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Looks like a dead squirrel to me and trust me, you can see here dead ones on a weekly basis, like they mainly can be found dead around the roads and no the vehicles that hit them, they don't stop or think twice about it.

2018-10-18 00:49:22 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Squirrels are usually grey, but they have lots of brown hair on their coats...they can be harder to spot around desert areas.

2018-10-18 00:50:30 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

All the telemetry data just disappeared into thin air apparently

2018-10-18 00:52:06 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

That's not the point. No one is saying that the Moon doesn't exist, the argument is about how no one has actually ever physically been able to contact it,

2018-10-18 00:52:13 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

like some would argue that it's not even solid.

2018-10-18 00:54:16 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Apollo (the sun masculine deity) landing on the feminine (godess) deity of the moon has also Esoteric significance, the point was never about actually physically landing upon anything...they've admitted that they've lost the technology and that they simply can't go back, like either they did go there or they didn't, so it's good to actually look at the reasons as to why they didn't, because of what, etc....instead of just thinking that they did, because that's what's told in the textbooks.

2018-10-18 00:56:25 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

People can believe that they did, I don't have issues with people just believing in things, but if one claims that it's irrefutable and they conclusively went there, well...that's pretty much the height of ignorance.. They supposedly accomplished it in the late 50s and yet, now that technology has been lost.

2018-10-18 00:57:26 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

It's good to point out bullshit, when you realize that it is actually bullshit. Like it has nothing to do with the shape of the earth, I've talked with many Globers who have concluded that the Apollo missions were fishy to say the least.

2018-10-18 01:02:55 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

the hell are you on about, more expensive? They spent like 140billion

2018-10-18 01:03:02 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

163*

2018-10-18 01:05:10 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Needless expense? Are you kidding me? It's humanity's supposed greatest accomplishment, like they're supposed to land on the moon and they should've also included the colored cameras too, which they previously even used on earth to film some of their test footages? I'll tell you why they didn't include it and it's because it's easier to fake the footage and make people not focus too much on the questionable details that people pointed out.

2018-10-18 01:06:20 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

We're talking about 163 billion here, like you can't even fanthom or even have a picture of how much money that actually is and for the time, you could get a lot done with that.

2018-10-18 01:08:14 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

From mostly the popular/mainstream websites, you can check christopherrcooper and there are also various charts

2018-10-18 01:18:15 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

**Apollo 11** A comprehensive set of camera equipment was carried on board Apollo 11. **This included two 16mm Maurer motion picture film cameras, a color television camera in the orbiting Columbia**, and a *black and white TV camera outside of the lunar module to transmit to Earth Neil Armstrong's first steps on the Moon's surface.* A Kodak stereo close-up camera was used to film the lunar soil from only inches away. Three Hasselblad 500EL cameras were carried.

2018-10-18 01:22:23 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Those cameras that they used, including the dual 16mm Maurer motion picture film cameras were already huge by themselves, and they don't look that bigger compared to the other ones that they carried. As far as the transmission equipment goes, the whole supposed conversation from the Moon into the Oval office is not only virtually impossible at the time, but it's still impossible now. You can't even get some signal in some areas of the earth, let alone try doing it from the Moon.

2018-10-18 01:25:19 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Data Storage Equipment (DSE). To make the supposed recordings possible, they claim that they used something called a Data Storage Electronics Assembly, which even if you look into the official explanation, they're trying to explain it away how it should've been virtually impossible, but due to certain atmosphrenic circumstances, it was able to and I quote; *As a result, many of its recordings are barely, if at all, audible, with a constant high-pitched background tone. In the attached database, the recordings that are virtually inaudible are highlighted*

2018-10-18 01:29:43 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I mean it's impossible with all the technology and improvements we have made so far upto late 2018 into transmitters, strenghtening the signals in-between access points, etc...so to think that, they easily pulled something like that back in the late 60s/early 70s, it just doesn't add up.

2018-10-18 01:31:05 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

And to make my self clear, this has nothing to do with the shape of the earth argument, which is what most people turn it into. People are still free to to think that they have scientific resources to back up the sphericity of the Earth, like that is not the point when it comes to the moon landings.

2018-10-18 01:31:51 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

People are entitled to think as they wish, it's none of my business.

2018-10-18 01:34:15 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

At the end of the day, we are born here and we die here...most of us won't go beyond 35k feet of altitude.

2018-10-18 01:36:43 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Speaking of food, I definitely need to spoil myself with some good food today

2018-10-18 01:38:33 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Sweet cupcakes

2018-10-18 01:39:27 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

It's like almost 5 in the morning, Thursday

2018-10-18 01:40:24 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

yea

2018-10-18 01:41:22 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

still 1 hour behind me, for them it's like 03:41AM

2018-10-18 01:41:53 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I woke up at around like 1 AM, since the second I got home, took a shower, ate something and then literally fell asleep

2018-10-18 01:42:46 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I'm so horrible in the kitchen, like need to get myself a housewife...I can only cook pasta, soup and just the basics

2018-10-18 01:43:11 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

good thing i'm lucky enough to have something going on for now, so hopefully 2019 will be a good year for me

2018-10-18 01:45:03 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Yeah, just another year to go through...it's literally just a +1 into my age, I guess not a lot will change

2018-10-18 01:45:20 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

although I always say that, but I end up looking back

2018-10-18 01:45:33 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

yeah

2018-10-18 01:45:58 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

It might feel unlikely as of now, but in one year from now, we will see all the new things we've experienced, etc.

2019-01-08 06:20:02 UTC [The Ice Wall #members-log]  

139 total messages. Viewing 250 per page.
Page 1/1