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2018-10-06 13:57:35 UTC

I don't think you understand the complexity of DNA

2018-10-06 13:57:44 UTC

I do

2018-10-06 13:57:46 UTC

You don't

2018-10-06 13:57:51 UTC

I'm a programmer

2018-10-06 13:57:58 UTC

and?

2018-10-06 13:57:58 UTC

lets presume DNA is a program

2018-10-06 13:58:05 UTC

complex program to make stuff

2018-10-06 13:58:07 UTC

I'm a biologist

2018-10-06 13:58:50 UTC

I'm not sure what you think was mapped, but we don't understand how a person is made from DNA from the little mapping we did

2018-10-06 13:59:06 UTC

We mailed the whole thing

2018-10-06 13:59:14 UTC

sure we can say how one gene in the DNA sequence can be the cause of one thing, but we don't understand how the whole thing works together

2018-10-06 13:59:15 UTC

Who doesnโ€™t understand that? All of humanity, or just you?

2018-10-06 13:59:17 UTC

Mapped

2018-10-06 13:59:23 UTC

BS

2018-10-06 13:59:40 UTC

its like mapping the world when you think its a globe

2018-10-06 13:59:45 UTC

its mapped incorrectly

2018-10-06 13:59:51 UTC

That's what they did in the 90s and 2000s

2018-10-06 13:59:59 UTC

its mapped incorrectly

2018-10-06 14:00:03 UTC

oh god here comes the globe

2018-10-06 14:00:23 UTC

It's a simple thing of G-C A-T it's not that hard to sequence

2018-10-06 14:00:31 UTC

Iโ€™d also like to remind everybody that we knew how genes worked long before we discovered the DNA molecule.

2018-10-06 14:00:54 UTC

(We meaning humanity in this case)

2018-10-06 14:00:56 UTC

@The18thDoctor yeah u right but the bean monk didn't get it all

2018-10-06 14:01:03 UTC

we have been manipulated genes in a rudimentary way to create various types of dogs

2018-10-06 14:01:17 UTC

Yeah I wasnโ€™t just referring to Mendel.

2018-10-06 14:01:19 UTC

we have a very basic understanding of it

2018-10-06 14:01:45 UTC

Being able to change genes and understanding how genes work are very, very different things.

2018-10-06 14:01:54 UTC

and rudimentary is where we are, we are in the 21st century with that limitation on tech, in 1 K years, we will be much much more advanced and have a better understanding of it

2018-10-06 14:01:56 UTC

We have manipulated genes to grow ears on mice, we have a complex understanding of it

2018-10-06 14:02:10 UTC

presuming we don't have scientists who create bogus theories that everyone buys

2018-10-06 14:02:40 UTC

I'm saying we have a rudimentary understanding of it

2018-10-06 14:02:57 UTC

we don't understand the human brain, we don't understand how to fix DNA defects

2018-10-06 14:02:57 UTC

Just because you don't know how it works doesn't make it impossible to learn, we know so much but you aren't looking it up

2018-10-06 14:03:07 UTC

we understand less than we understand

2018-10-06 14:03:44 UTC

lets presume we know about 2% of how DNA works, your trying to pass that off as a great knowledge

2018-10-06 14:03:48 UTC

DNA defects are more often than not self correcting in mitosis, however if you are talking about meiosis we can correct there

2018-10-06 14:03:54 UTC

2% is not alot

2018-10-06 14:04:06 UTC

less than a slice of a pizza

2018-10-06 14:04:07 UTC

How do you know itโ€™s that small?

2018-10-06 14:04:33 UTC

Kevin you aren't reading what I'm saying, you are presuming that you are already correct and saying nonsense

2018-10-06 14:04:49 UTC

And also knowledge is not a thing you can easily slice up like that. You canโ€™t know how much you donโ€™t know without knowing what you donโ€™t know.

2018-10-06 14:05:21 UTC

Big Lover, your talking about details of DNA and not paying attention to the bigger picture

2018-10-06 14:05:38 UTC

your thinking the trees are the entire forest, when they are just a few trees,

2018-10-06 14:05:57 UTC

You are saying we know nothing about DNA while I explain the details of how much we actually know

2018-10-06 14:06:07 UTC

I'm not saying we know nothing

2018-10-06 14:06:28 UTC

I'm saying we know very little compared to what we will know given enough time and not being misdirected

2018-10-06 14:07:14 UTC

You are ignoting the current understanding in your argument however

2018-10-06 14:07:14 UTC

in comparison to what we will know in 1,000 years from now, or even 10,000 years from now

2018-10-06 14:07:39 UTC

We will know more about everting on the future we can't dismiss all knowledge right now

2018-10-06 14:07:43 UTC

your ignoring that our knowledge on the subject will grow, and that we are in the infancy of our knowledge of it

2018-10-06 14:08:24 UTC

I'm not dismissing that we know some stuff about it, but we don't know everything or even 5%

2018-10-06 14:08:51 UTC

if we knew everything, we could do what GOD does, and takes someone's genes and make a person from scratch

2018-10-06 14:09:08 UTC

no womb, nothing

2018-10-06 14:10:26 UTC

Kevin what you are saying is that we don't know enough so anything is possible even incest with the tree thing.

I'm saying, this is what we know currently our current extent and the actual future of the subject.

I'm working with speculation based on facts. You are trying to create a fanfiction of biology where you can justify the issue of inbreeding between two people and their children.

2018-10-06 14:11:30 UTC

no, incest is wrong because it creates negative outcomes in children with genetic defects

2018-10-06 14:11:54 UTC

I'm saying there was a reason why this didn't occur in the earlier generations and now it does occur

2018-10-06 14:11:55 UTC

What about gay incest

2018-10-06 14:12:08 UTC

Between consensual adults

2018-10-06 14:12:17 UTC

Or incest with contraception

2018-10-06 14:12:33 UTC

if children can't be created, I'm sure sex is wrong in the eyes of GOD. the whole point of sex is to create offspring.

2018-10-06 14:12:55 UTC

Ok so is it wrong to have sex with an infertile wife?

2018-10-06 14:12:55 UTC

The reason it didn't occur is because the Bible isn't literal, and to apply our current day understaning to the historic text creates glaring flaws

2018-10-06 14:13:57 UTC

I don't think its wrong to have two people love each other and find solace in each other's arms, but there is a slippery slope when you talk about moral decay that collapses societites

2018-10-06 14:14:10 UTC

Sex is kinda overrated tbh. Same with humanity.

2018-10-06 14:14:28 UTC

I think humanity is extremely important

2018-10-06 14:14:36 UTC

otherwise GOD wouldn't of created us

2018-10-06 14:14:42 UTC

The universe wouldn't even notice if we vanished in an instant.

2018-10-06 14:14:59 UTC

What is moral decay?
How do we know God created us?

2018-10-06 14:15:23 UTC

sounds like you believe in the science fiction with many fictional galaxies.

2018-10-06 14:16:23 UTC

Ok even if the earth were flat

2018-10-06 14:16:28 UTC

We know GOD created us because the firmament has been proven to exist

2018-10-06 14:16:30 UTC

How do we know God created us

2018-10-06 14:16:40 UTC

What I believe doesn't even matter. There is zero proof that we're important. We give things value so we declare ourselves important but it's subjective.

2018-10-06 14:16:43 UTC

and psalms 19.1 states:

2018-10-06 14:17:04 UTC

The Koran also speaks of a firmament

2018-10-06 14:17:17 UTC

I'm being completely objective

2018-10-06 14:17:34 UTC

Doesn't sound like it at all.

2018-10-06 14:17:44 UTC

we know that flat earth exists

2018-10-06 14:17:47 UTC

You sound like a typical human worshiping their own self importance.

2018-10-06 14:17:50 UTC

Many ancient cultures thought the earth was flat

2018-10-06 14:18:02 UTC

they might of been more advanced than us today

2018-10-06 14:18:18 UTC

Zero proof of that.

2018-10-06 14:18:36 UTC

remember when I talked about moral decay and societal collapse

2018-10-06 14:18:53 UTC

we don't understand how they created the pyramids, they had tech that was lost

2018-10-06 14:19:54 UTC

Ahhh yes, the pyramids. The ultimate symbol of mans accomplishments. Not like we have far more amazing mega structures now or anything.

2018-10-06 14:20:28 UTC

How could they have moved and stakced the big rocks?

2018-10-06 14:20:45 UTC

So, lets review, the idea that I'm promoting incest is wrong, and that just because in the ancient past it didn't cause problems (by design) we are no longer in that era.

2018-10-06 14:20:57 UTC

LOL

2018-10-06 14:21:58 UTC

And to that I said

2018-10-06 14:22:01 UTC

we have footage that pyramids were all over the planet, not just in egypt

2018-10-06 14:22:03 UTC

Kevin what you are saying is that we don't know enough so anything is possible even incest with the tree thing.

I'm saying, this is what we know currently our current extent and the actual future of the subject.

I'm working with speculation based on facts. You are trying to create a fanfiction of biology where you can justify the issue of inbreeding between two people and their children.

2018-10-06 14:22:12 UTC

They used slaves to build the pyramids. They'd carry materials by rolling them on logs. They had many many slaves. Your bible describes slave labor of the Egyptians. The slave labor in the bible wasn't the pyramids but still the Egyptians had workers and I don't think they cared too much about casualties on the job site. OSHA didn't exist yet.

2018-10-06 14:22:23 UTC

looks like a pyramid was spotted in antartica

2018-10-06 14:22:29 UTC

under ice

2018-10-06 14:22:36 UTC

no one is digging it up

2018-10-06 14:22:50 UTC

They said a pyramid-like structure was discovered under a mountain in Antarctica

2018-10-06 14:23:28 UTC

It's literally just a mountain

2018-10-06 14:24:50 UTC

I'm not buying that is a mountain

2018-10-06 14:25:01 UTC

Of course you wouldn't

2018-10-06 14:25:16 UTC

mountains wouldn't have a pointy top or edges

2018-10-06 14:25:30 UTC

Mountains wouldn't have a pointy top

2018-10-06 14:25:34 UTC

<:thonk:485324336874651650>

2018-10-06 14:25:36 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484514023698726912/498138762916659206/Mueller-03-006_front_large.png

2018-10-06 14:25:48 UTC

yea, that is a rounded top, very little point

2018-10-06 14:26:35 UTC

The conditions in Antarctica mean that it's only wind that would erode away the sides

2018-10-06 14:26:36 UTC

I'm sure some mountains might end in more pointy, but they don't have edges like that because wind will sand off the edges

2018-10-06 14:26:46 UTC

Antarctica is a desert

2018-10-06 14:26:57 UTC

its not a desert

2018-10-06 14:27:01 UTC

Smoothing happens with rainfall

2018-10-06 14:27:03 UTC

deserts don't have that much water

2018-10-06 14:27:08 UTC

It literally is

2018-10-06 14:27:23 UTC

no, antartica is not even a continent

2018-10-06 14:27:31 UTC

there's basically no liquid water in antarctica is there?

2018-10-06 14:27:36 UTC

Do you know what a desert is?

2018-10-06 14:27:42 UTC

to sail around antartica is like sailing around 4 earths

2018-10-06 14:27:49 UTC

8 inches of rainfall

2018-10-06 14:27:53 UTC

im in the voice channel if someone wants to debate the flat earth with me@@@@@@@

2018-10-06 14:28:00 UTC

its the outer edge of the flat earth

2018-10-06 14:28:08 UTC

go to debate hall VC

2018-10-06 14:28:20 UTC

Hit Kevin up

2018-10-06 14:28:30 UTC

I'm a flat earther

2018-10-06 14:28:40 UTC

I'm not interested in debating facts

2018-10-06 14:28:42 UTC

are you a christian?

2018-10-06 14:28:53 UTC

no, I'm a reformed jewish man

2018-10-06 14:29:03 UTC

you can't be a flat earther in that case

2018-10-06 14:29:08 UTC

new testament in the bible is garbage

2018-10-06 14:29:12 UTC

because you have no merit to make truth statements

2018-10-06 14:29:14 UTC

lol

2018-10-06 14:29:22 UTC

your clueless

2018-10-06 14:29:24 UTC

battlepod i know you

2018-10-06 14:29:26 UTC

im stacyb

2018-10-06 14:29:28 UTC

hahaha

2018-10-06 14:29:29 UTC

Desert-a dry, barren area of land, especially one covered with sand, that is characteristically desolate, waterless, and without vegetation

Antarctica is dry, barren, desolate, waterless, and lacks vegetation

2018-10-06 14:29:32 UTC

OHHH SHIT!

2018-10-06 14:29:34 UTC

STACYB!

2018-10-06 14:29:38 UTC

come debate me in voice @^Kevin^

2018-10-06 14:29:41 UTC

lmao

2018-10-06 14:29:47 UTC

i love u battleboi

2018-10-06 14:29:57 UTC

Luv u boo ๐Ÿ˜˜

2018-10-06 14:30:19 UTC

Because ice is not water because water is liquid

2018-10-06 14:30:24 UTC

the new testament was created by the people who killed the jewish man Jesus H. Christ after he was dead, 500 years after his death they helped to create the religion to celebrate them killing him

2018-10-06 14:30:54 UTC

Romans were the ones who killed Jesus, you celebrate a bad religion that is pagan in nature, 3 gods in one

2018-10-06 14:31:10 UTC

stop trying to tell me nonsense about your false pagan religion

2018-10-06 14:31:40 UTC

debate me @^Kevin^

2018-10-06 14:31:42 UTC

stop hiding

2018-10-06 14:31:43 UTC

pussy

2018-10-06 14:31:52 UTC

Jesus Christ had a middle name, H was just an initial appearantly

2018-10-06 14:32:10 UTC

I'm not debating pagan religions with you, you follow more than one god

2018-10-06 14:32:34 UTC

Kevin you don't debate anyway

2018-10-06 14:32:38 UTC

in the 10 commandments it specifically says not to worship idols and promoted monotheism, one god, not 3

2018-10-06 14:32:59 UTC

Christianity isn't really polytheism

2018-10-06 14:33:04 UTC

you believe in the father, son, and holy ghost, and somehow try to say that is one god

2018-10-06 14:33:08 UTC

They believe the Trinity are one

2018-10-06 14:33:21 UTC

you also specifically changed the calenders to try to hide the sabbath

2018-10-06 14:33:39 UTC

first the calendar was changed to julienne, then gregoriane

2018-10-06 14:33:51 UTC

anyone not following the ancient calenders is praying on the wrong sabbath

2018-10-06 14:34:04 UTC

and one of the 10 commandments is to keep the sabbath holy

2018-10-06 14:34:14 UTC

Why do you keep saying "You"

2018-10-06 14:34:17 UTC

don't talk to me about your pagan religion and push it like its truth

2018-10-06 14:34:40 UTC

I don't like lies or liars

2018-10-06 14:34:47 UTC

Not all Christians are Trinitarian

2018-10-06 14:34:51 UTC

I mean... It's ok... God doesn't exist anyway. And the strongest arguments I've heard for God had to do with Jesus. Once Jesus is illiminated it's pretty easy to debate religion tbh because Christians want you to disprove Jesus rose from the dead

2018-10-06 14:34:58 UTC

@I-VaPE-ChEMtrAiLS ^^ yeah that too

2018-10-06 14:35:19 UTC

Some Christians do not believe in the divinity of Jesus

2018-10-06 14:35:28 UTC

Which makes no sense to me

2018-10-06 14:35:29 UTC

psalms 19.1 says something that is in old testament

2018-10-06 14:35:37 UTC

old testament is reliable

2018-10-06 14:35:55 UTC

new testament like much ficitonal works is nonsense made up by men trying to control other men

2018-10-06 14:36:09 UTC

I think Jesus was a pretty cool guy. He ain't god though. There is no god.

2018-10-06 14:36:11 UTC

much like the globe science fiction nonsense is

2018-10-06 14:36:35 UTC

Mods are into God and Christianity, maybe you should hit them up for a debate around it

2018-10-06 14:36:39 UTC

Jesus was a man who was a good man who tried to do what good he could in his day and age

2018-10-06 14:37:19 UTC

He is no more a GOD than I am

2018-10-06 14:37:25 UTC

Yeah I'm an atheist so I don't really care about Jesus.

2018-10-06 14:37:25 UTC

we are all children of GOD

2018-10-06 14:37:55 UTC

@The Gwench thoughts? On Kevin's view of Christ?

2018-10-06 14:38:51 UTC

<:ohheck:485078351162376202>

2018-10-06 14:39:11 UTC

Atheists unite. Let's start our own church ๐Ÿ˜

2018-10-06 14:39:37 UTC

maybe do a little research into flat earth

2018-10-06 14:39:48 UTC

stop believing false propaganda

2018-10-06 14:41:15 UTC

I'm not saying that christians are bad or evil, just mislead

2018-10-06 14:41:29 UTC

Btw that Antarctic mountain isn't the only pyramidal mountain in existence

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484514023698726912/498142759916535808/Screenshot_2018-10-06-10-40-43.png

2018-10-06 14:42:18 UTC

the majority of christians are mislead, a few are bad and evil

2018-10-06 14:42:24 UTC

People who don't believe in God explain this image

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484514023698726912/498142992830562324/image0-6.png

2018-10-06 14:42:28 UTC

https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/mountain-shapes

Also they can be naturally a pyramid shape but it's rare

2018-10-06 14:42:36 UTC

โ€œstop believing false propagandaโ€ Like the evidence of my own eyes that tells me the earthโ€™s a sphere?

2018-10-06 14:42:49 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484514023698726912/498143095456530448/IMG_20181007_034032.jpg

2018-10-06 14:43:12 UTC

I think your missing the point of that mesage

2018-10-06 14:43:19 UTC

No point stating a debate 18, he won't listen to facts

2018-10-06 14:43:40 UTC

a fact is a fact, debating it doesn't change it

2018-10-06 14:44:20 UTC

Yes

2018-10-06 14:44:24 UTC

I agree

2018-10-06 14:44:48 UTC

your not believing your own eyes, your beliving false brainwashing

2018-10-06 14:45:01 UTC

why take a globe into every classroom in kindergarden

2018-10-06 14:45:17 UTC

I guarantee you, every kindergarden has a globe around

2018-10-06 14:45:29 UTC

๐Ÿคฃ

2018-10-06 14:45:33 UTC

this is amazing

2018-10-06 14:45:56 UTC

when you are too young to critically think and will believe anything including santa clause, that is when they are selling you this globe theory

2018-10-06 14:46:19 UTC

Why do they give the Bible in class? I guarantee you most schools in America have religious outreach

2018-10-06 14:46:29 UTC

use the scientific method and actually critically do some analysis to determine which shape of the earth more closely represents our reality

2018-10-06 14:46:31 UTC

when you are too young to critically think and will believe anything including santa clause, that is when they are selling you this god theory

2018-10-06 14:46:36 UTC

flat earth beats globe nonsense

2018-10-06 14:46:40 UTC

use the scientific method and actually critically do some analysis to determine which shape of the earth more closely represents our reality

2018-10-06 14:46:41 UTC

false propaganda

2018-10-06 14:46:44 UTC

I did not have a globe in my kindergarten classroom. My dad had a globe that he wouldn't let me touch because I'd spin it like a beyblade

2018-10-06 14:46:56 UTC

You act like children have pocket globes

2018-10-06 14:47:02 UTC

Globe beats FE nonsense

2018-10-06 14:47:07 UTC

false propaganda

2018-10-06 14:47:15 UTC

watch the video

2018-10-06 14:47:18 UTC

I never had a pocket globe. I did have a pocket bible.

2018-10-06 14:47:25 UTC

Read a book

2018-10-06 14:47:29 UTC

I bought a globe and still own it, that doesn't make it reality

2018-10-06 14:47:43 UTC

gib me dat pocket globe ๐Ÿ˜ฉ

2018-10-06 14:47:56 UTC

I have a few bibles and still own them, that doesn't make it reality

2018-10-06 14:47:56 UTC

That's not what people think makes the world round ๐Ÿ‘€

2018-10-06 14:48:14 UTC

Rip out the new testament and you would be closer to reality

2018-10-06 14:48:26 UTC

Burn it and you would be closer to reality ๐Ÿ˜

2018-10-06 14:48:28 UTC

new testament is garbage, old testament is useful

2018-10-06 14:48:38 UTC

Stick the FE map to an apple and you would be closer to reality

2018-10-06 14:48:40 UTC

Yes stoning gays is useful

2018-10-06 14:48:54 UTC

I don't promote stoning gays

2018-10-06 14:49:11 UTC

I promote getting gays stoned

2018-10-06 14:49:12 UTC

I also don't promote moral collapse

2018-10-06 14:49:12 UTC

Your bible commands to stone gays

2018-10-06 14:49:27 UTC

In Leviticus

2018-10-06 14:49:42 UTC

I promote letting gays do their thing but if they want to be treated for their mental illness, that would be advisable

2018-10-06 14:50:15 UTC

Leviticus 18:22

2018-10-06 14:50:42 UTC

same with the TG's that are being promoted by those who want to lead us down a negative moral outcome with beastality, necrophilia, and pedophilia becoming the norm and okay, much like the morally absent gay agenda

2018-10-06 14:51:02 UTC

Being gay is not a mental illness and to imply as much is frankly disgusting

2018-10-06 14:51:15 UTC

it is a mental illness

2018-10-06 14:51:17 UTC

you are a sick, sick person if you believe that

2018-10-06 14:51:40 UTC

much like pedophilia and necrophilia is

2018-10-06 14:51:49 UTC

I'm bisexual

2018-10-06 14:52:02 UTC

sexiual deviancy is a mental illness

2018-10-06 14:52:02 UTC

and i don't appreciate the comparison

2018-10-06 14:52:16 UTC

Kevin homosexually hasn't been a mental illness since the 60s keep up

2018-10-06 14:52:28 UTC

yea, moral decline in our society

2018-10-06 14:52:30 UTC

I am aware of it

2018-10-06 14:52:33 UTC

It's not an illness as it causes no distress to the individual

2018-10-06 14:52:40 UTC

Read a fucking book

2018-10-06 14:52:41 UTC

your hateful incessant blithering is a mental illness

2018-10-06 14:52:44 UTC

"If a man liesย with aย maleas with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them"

2018-10-06 14:52:53 UTC

you are the moral degenerate Kevin

2018-10-06 14:53:25 UTC

personal attacks on me is pointless

2018-10-06 14:53:37 UTC

You compared me to a pedophile

2018-10-06 14:53:41 UTC

I think its warranted

2018-10-06 14:53:48 UTC

Me too

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