basically what bacon is saying about the rats

you can't work miracles on the first try

@🍄The Mad Philosopher🍄 am i talking to a wall?

yall still on this topic, wow

1 successful attempt means nothing. You do hundreds of experiments

@Bacon Seeing rats affected this way should be an automatic "fuck this start all over, hell fucking no way would we ever take this beyond rats."

@Hamburger Guy You're an idiot. Talk to yourself.

@🍄The Mad Philosopher🍄 I need a study proving it was GMO food

and the dose

who's to say we didn't start over

or like

improve

My parents are oncology researches. They’ve been working on the same research for the past 15 years

and the time frame

I'm not giving you shit after how you behaved.

rather than just giving the people that after we've seen the effects it had on the rats

Do your own research

why would you even jeopardize something like that

can i see their research reports then :) @Bacon

literal tumors

@🍄The Mad Philosopher🍄 don't tell me to do my research it's your claim not mine

Not really. It’s mostly secret stuff since it’s for a patent. I may be able to get some though

Did this chat chill

ok i dont believe you then

Lol

@Hamburger Guy I'll tell you whatever the hell I feel like. You're the one who said they were good.

I can tell you the focus of their research is the protein called Clotho

@🍄The Mad Philosopher🍄 ok fine I'll DM you

I asked if you thought they were good.

I made no absolute claim

why does anyone give a <censored> about a <censored> rats their incredibly invasion and have destroyed many crops which ruined the farmers income i see no reason to care for them

I got muted.

@Bacon so they dont study immunology of any kind then

Have a good night.

They’re animals nonetheless. They should be cared about. However, they are crucial for research

That I won’t say

ok well even if you were to say they do, you'd be lying. Klotho is a co-receptor for bone minerals and vitamin D metabolism

Also you need to remember I’m not a doctor. I don’t know what their work is about in detail. Just very, very basic stuff they use

That what they’re researching. Another purpose that could prove useful

then dont use them as your evidence for claims if you dont know what you are talking about

I said I didn’t know their work in details, and I didn’t go into details. I used what I know for sure

YES UNMUTES

Look what I found @🍄The Mad Philosopher🍄

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/journal-retracts-genetically-modified-corn-tumor-rats-study/

getting warmer....

I love this debate. First one where people don’t suddenly bring in the justice of god and whatnot to support their claim

The actual study...

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0278691512005637#FCANote

@eletrick33 I only used them as an example. Not as direct proof of anything. However, if you were testing with rats and GMO's, regardless of the dosage or amount, and the rats you were testing with grew enormous tumors, you would likely cease all testing or tested to see what caused the tumors. The latter is extremely torturous and wrong. The fact that they grew tumors, at all, should be enough to reconsider testing with whatever chemicals they were using.

Seeing what causes stuff are sometimes equally as important

thats the point of testing sometimes test dont always go the way they wanted it to

@The Gwench Why art you taliking in vc

Alright, @Hamburger Guy has been warned for '**Bad word usage**'.

Round up is not Genetic modification or engineering.

Eletrick is right. The purpose of research is to see what will work, and what does not

@Muncher Too tired to talk. Worked a long day

oh

like imagine them not test the stuff they give us we would prolly die but thats why they use rats because rats spread like a wildfire in a dry forest

@🍄The Mad Philosopher🍄 I sent you the links now it's your turn to rebut

Why can’t I talk in vc

Pls help senor

@Hamburger Guy Round Up is not Genetic Engineering.

@UwU wink wink 😘😂 its prolly because its on push to talk but idk

Another reason is that they’re easy to manage, easy to take care of and are very genetically similar to humans so things that work on them will usually work on humans as well

Chemical toxicity results of an herbicide is not evidence that genetic engineering is good. @Hamburger Guy

Why would you insult me with such a study?

@🍄The Mad Philosopher🍄 you used the photo yourself

I have mixed feelings about genetic engineering

thanks for disproving yourself

I did nothing of the sort

The fuck is wrong with you?

Do you have any critical thinking skills, in the slightest?

On one hand, genetic engineering is basically changing what humans have been for the past 60,000 years. Maybe more. On the other hand, it can fix a lot of problems

I used images of a search result of GMO usage in rats. NOT from the use of herbicides on produce. @Hamburger Guy

@🍄The Mad Philosopher🍄 can i have some of your mushrooms i have a headache

@🍄The Mad Philosopher🍄 the exact same image

I feel like it’s really playing god. I’m atheist, but I still don’t find that right. To a certain degree

I searched the exact same thing

Herbicides are not Genetic Engineering.

Try again

@🍄The Mad Philosopher🍄 then next time google things better instead of blaming people that are rebutting you

fine I'll be back soon

I didn't take a single fucking image you dunce. I screenshot an overall search.

libtard

You're the liberal

wait we can swear now

Liberals advocate for vaccines and gmos like you. Liberal

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And more debates heating up to something no one cares about. Feelsbadman

Also, I’m intrigued by the gay frogs rank. What is it?

!mute @Hamburger Guy

Hamburger Guy#8249 (554102233319473152) is now muted for '**Unspecified.**', alright? <:THUMBSUP6:403560443345371137>

Anyways I’m going to sleep. Gn

Was a fun debate

Why did they let me out

It’s

wows its almost like ingredients in other things can also be used other things 🤔

Strange here

it really is