and the dose

who's to say we didn't start over

or like

improve

My parents are oncology researches. They’ve been working on the same research for the past 15 years

and the time frame

I'm not giving you shit after how you behaved.

rather than just giving the people that after we've seen the effects it had on the rats

Do your own research

why would you even jeopardize something like that

can i see their research reports then :) @Bacon

literal tumors

@🍄The Mad Philosopher🍄 don't tell me to do my research it's your claim not mine

Not really. It’s mostly secret stuff since it’s for a patent. I may be able to get some though

Did this chat chill

ok i dont believe you then

Lol

@Hamburger Guy I'll tell you whatever the hell I feel like. You're the one who said they were good.

I can tell you the focus of their research is the protein called Clotho

@🍄The Mad Philosopher🍄 ok fine I'll DM you

I asked if you thought they were good.

I made no absolute claim

why does anyone give a <censored> about a <censored> rats their incredibly invasion and have destroyed many crops which ruined the farmers income i see no reason to care for them

I got muted.

@Bacon so they dont study immunology of any kind then

Have a good night.

They’re animals nonetheless. They should be cared about. However, they are crucial for research

That I won’t say

ok well even if you were to say they do, you'd be lying. Klotho is a co-receptor for bone minerals and vitamin D metabolism

Also you need to remember I’m not a doctor. I don’t know what their work is about in detail. Just very, very basic stuff they use

That what they’re researching. Another purpose that could prove useful

then dont use them as your evidence for claims if you dont know what you are talking about

I said I didn’t know their work in details, and I didn’t go into details. I used what I know for sure

YES UNMUTES

Look what I found @🍄The Mad Philosopher🍄

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/journal-retracts-genetically-modified-corn-tumor-rats-study/

getting warmer....

I love this debate. First one where people don’t suddenly bring in the justice of god and whatnot to support their claim

The actual study...

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0278691512005637#FCANote

@eletrick33 I only used them as an example. Not as direct proof of anything. However, if you were testing with rats and GMO's, regardless of the dosage or amount, and the rats you were testing with grew enormous tumors, you would likely cease all testing or tested to see what caused the tumors. The latter is extremely torturous and wrong. The fact that they grew tumors, at all, should be enough to reconsider testing with whatever chemicals they were using.