@YUGE ...North Korea?

herion used to come in mainly through the port of baltimore from the netherlands via ship, but the cartels are cutting into that supply route

I think that we're going to see movement on the wall soon. These drug talks are promising

@Convo yes, they make meth to feed their people

and make fake nukes

@RedRightHand it hurts so much that the wall isn't enough

they have to go back

They have to move on the wall. There isn't any kind of drug policy that will work unless they fix that border

none

@Caerulus_Rex I think meth is a particularly bad problem because there are suppliers making it at scale to get people hooked, then people can start cooking it on their own. I think that's why it's become such a big problem in rural areas

same with pills, there are pharmacies in rural areas

Meth is the reason most computer stores go out of business now, true story

@Convo I think that the wall will be a huge psychological relief for our blue collar brethren. This shit is causing the drug problems imo

agreed on the wall, it's just as much a statement as it is an effective tool

Yeah, the wall is a clear message, even if it doesn't work

it's a piece of the puzzle, we can't do just the wall, but we need to do the wall

@Axe in the Deep computer stores?

👍🏻

Yeah

explain

I explained it once on 88 Mins in the summer, but essentially, all of these stores are owned by gooks, and when they got money, they'd buy fancy cars and did coke. The thing is, coke is not as expensive as meth, so the gooks see meth as being better than coke because it's more expensive. So now they blow all their money on meth, and they just sit around like fucking dog-eating humps behind their desks and don't do as much work.

So not only are they pissing the store money away on meth, but it's also making them less productive

true story, that happens here in SF

gooks love meth

Expensive = better

yes, with every single aspect of their life

status signaling over everything

Wait since when the fuck was meth more expensive than coke?

by weight I think

meth is sold in extremely small weights at the street level

relative to other drugs

yeah

cause it's harder to make in big batches

like a kilo of pure meth makes a hell of a lot more street level units to sell than a kilo of coke

meth is buying 1/10th gram at a time. coke is by the gram.

and the pure meth comes in from north korea because they make it in pharmaceutical factories

Here meth is dirt cheap

bad meth is

Then again we've got a fuckton of labs

don't let the gooks find out

they're gonna want in on that racket

not the pharmaceutical grade shit from DPRK

2/10s of meth is about the same price as a gram of blow

going off breaking bad prices anyway

I've seen pics of drug busts in SF when they get the gook gangs with textbook sized shards of crystal meth

i don't hang out with those types of people

shit that's a lot of meth

you're not cooking that in a home lab

no, that's factory shit

yea, it's all the chinatown organized crime bringing it in here

but yes, people get hooked on the good shit then start cookign their own when they can't afford it

of course it's not really cheap to make on your own either, even if t's made with household shit

cause like the amount of workstation you need to make the gear and NOT DIE

yea, cheap is a relative term

but you don't need to maintain a supply route if you can cook it yourself

better off just buying bags of poppy seeds at the grocery store and trying to make some kind of opium out of it

OR becoming a nazi and not doing drugs at all

the meth addicts here will get old electronics people leave out on the sidewalk and walk around for days disassembling it to their piece parts in a shopping cart. I've seen people desoldering boards on the sidewalk.

>ywn be a bond villain

Spencer is so handsome it makes me feel bad

>desoldering circuit boards

lel

for days on end

yeah we are the most handsome villains

then when they get to the point of being up for so long they start hallucinating, the get violent and start yelling at things

great neighbors, tbh

drugs are totally fine to just legalize and allow anyone to use at their own responsible discretion, of course!

muh freedom

yea, but clearly legal status isn't working either

this is something that ultimately will need to be fixed with culture

just like alcohol was

the temperance movement came about because drinking was a much larger social problem then

but prohibition didn't fix it, culture did

Yep

drugs are bad

The temperance movement didn't do shit.

it existed

and there's a reason it came to existence

So did Prohibition

right, that's my point

it was ultimately the culture, not the law, that fixed the issues that brought about the temperance movement

Yeah but it's hard to change the cultural norms regarding substance use. It takes many generations.

I don't know about many

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3TYsR3oDZU

but yes, it's not a fast change

Anyone surprised Buzzfeed did this?

but we've been fighting drugs with laws for 50 years and objectively it hasn't worked

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv0i8Do4u48

which is why I said, like alcohol, the drug problem will ultimately need to be solved with culture

This video was in the suggestion side

Oh I agree. I thought you supported the temperance movement.

oh no, I'm just saying it existed for a reason

drinking at the turn of the 20th century was a very valid social concern

Gotcha

it was a problem

but it was ultimately the culture, not the law, that made it not a problem. we saw prohibition was a complete failure

objectively, drug prohibition has been a total failure too

I have to put on the bow tie for this one. It is all about supply and demand. If there's Heroin from Iran and Meth from Mexico then people are going to do it regardless of the law or culture. Weed is very tricky because it can't be shut out of borders.

meth can be made here and we have pharmacies distributing tablet heroin

I think the key is a healthy society and a strong economy, then people don't feel like they have nothing left to lose