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Fucking lol ๐
instead of proof of work you're generating anime avis, i don't even
woke up and that was the first item in my news feed
man i really wish bitchute was the new thing but the content just isint there
all these alt tech sites need is entertainers and currently they just dont have that because youtube isint targeting those as harshly as other content
they need NEW entertainers ๐
new entertainers would help but also im not going to use bitchute unless people i watch on youtube start using it
"Actually YouTube wants the sub button to become a loot box instead.๏ปฟ"
someone figured it out!
well theres your issue then, Youtube knows that people wont leave as long as their creators are on there
So big creators get looser rights
so that they stay
yeah thats kinda what i just said
yes
its a bad situation
here is the problem, big creators would need to move, whole sale, onto a new site and just stop youtube. that is a MAJOR risk
yes, they'd have to trust all their subscribers move over too
they dont need to just stop youtube
yes they would or the youtube crowd would not move
people are lazy
thats not completely true
why would i go to bitchute or something when i can still find it on youtube
every time bullshit about youtube comes out i want to move but i cant
youd do it because you realize youtube is shit
youtube isint just fucking with creators anymore
its fucking with watchers
to be fair, what could work
Is that the youtube creators, just place youtube videos with links to their bitshute site ๐
thats an idea
so people can see on youtube they have a new movie, click the link
and watch it on bitchute instead
its how many youtube lets-players announce they're live on twitch for example
just a video that says "go to link in description"
and only have the link in the description
i have no illusions that if your a youtuber with your content on both platforms that yotuube will still have more veiws. however bitchute is a platform without all the bullshit of youtube. at the same time im almost positive youtube will devalue any creator who is doubling up on both platforms especially big creators who do it
like they did with patreon for a while
but the only solution is to be on youtube and bitchute at the same time, not one or the other. not until one of them dies anyway, which you want to be youtube at this point because youtube is just one of the worst platforms out there now, its just old and everyone uses it
there will always be people on youtube who when they know that your on bitchute they will watch you there insted, theres a reason styx has as much success on bitchute as he does
its not a lot of people but it will also grow the more people who do it
so, here is the problem. any alternative platform to youtube needs an injection of viewers.
not necessarily content creators
no, build it and they will come
they may come, but will the come before the doors need to close
that is the problem
you dont herd a bunch of factory workers into a field and build the factory around them while they wait
until you have something people want to go to, people WONT go to it
yes, but you also don't keep the factory open if you build it and then you don't have enough workers
its not a problem, it ONLY works this way
bitshute needs to offer creators something better than youtube,
if its more lucrative, they'll jump ship, announce it on youtube and bring (atleast part) of their following with them
the factory is built, now you need a company to rent it and bring in their already existing workforce
it needs to become popular
bitchute does offer creators something better than yotuube, it is more lucrative in theory
it doesent have the supply for that yet though
yes i agree the only way to compete with youtube is have a lot of money
the age old issue of modernisation,
The long term profits are there
But short term they aren't, so people don't go for it
big creators might not see the time and effort needed to maintain two or more different video sites. sitting for who knows how long waiting for something to upload twice, only to see one sit get like no views and the other to get tons
@Dr.Wol hit the nail on the head
you need the money now to get to the profits then. but that is a gamble.
i mean at some point the profits will be there because eventually youtube just deletes your channal
because the profits might not end up showing up
but thats a very slow burn
well right, but so long as youtube is around, the profits might not be there. so why waste the energy?
i'm sure that if like say tim moved exclusively to bitchute, most of his fans would probably follow.
even more if he did the "post a video to tell people to go to bitchute"
because your labor to profit ratio is always going down on youtube and has been going down for the last 6 years
yes, and as that goes down, it makes moving more needed and harder to do.
its like a business that knows what it needs to do in order to turn around, but does have the capital to do it.
and last i checked, there is no lending agency for youtube creators to do something like offer to do the leg work of maintain a second channel on bitchute in exchange for compensation at a later time, regardless if the thing takes off.
(that said, wonder if there is a business model for doing that)
you arnt paying attention to youtube then
then why haven't the big guys left yet
if its so no brainer, why haven't they?
its not a no brainer, and they also arnt the brightest people in the world. youtube is depressing, we havent heard good news or good implamentations of ideas by youtube for 4 years. they only do things that make the platform worse
like your right that theres a lot of work involved in doing something you have no guarentee in paying off. but youtube isint going to shoot you in the head, its slowly going to take more and more food away from you to see how long you can last before you starve to death
a no brainer is a bullet in the head
starvation is complicated
the biggest problem is money. the money on youtube comes from ads. this is how shit has been done since forever, right? just the new version of tv. But ads are flaky. They require views, sometimes clicks. That is a really risky business model. And as people have pointed out, youtube has not really made money, probably since google bought it if it ever really made money.
your also less likely to want to do something for potentially nothing while your being starved
So, how do these new sites compare. Do they have the same set of ads. if so, how do you prevent a bunch of major ad companies from making a fuss over something and then pulling out. causing either the platform to respond, or creators to leave, unless that ad space can be filled.
but the move to bitchute also isint an incredibly huge risk, not as much of a risk as moving there and not staying on youtube at the same time. but time is also money
oh i agree, any alt tech company needs to be built not to deal with the same problems youtube has
but not all of youtubes problems are about ads
half of youtubes problems are about content control and presentation
fucking shit with subscriptions, fucking shit with how things are recommended, these are long term protections against problems with ad's i agree. but at the same time they also are about culling the platform into something simply better for them to make money dispite how that runs into large chucks of their audience
personally, i think more creators need to actually go out and get sponsorships directly. I know its iffy, but really, you need a company that says "we know exactly what you produce, and we agree." Then its no longer a risk of the platform turning on you that will cost you money. so then its just which one is easiest for my fans to see a new video i posted.
why would you ever need to implament a 2nd conformation to a subscription button (the bell) and then later implament a 3rd confermation to a subscription (the tab that opens up after the bell now) THEN start messing with the subscription feed
look it doesent matter what creators do now
they could be sponcered by the whitehouse. if youtube wants you dead, they are your god now
either that, or start having paid subscriptions. Which is what patreon almost is
well thats why i said then the platform is less problematic
doesn't matter if the video doesn't get views for a while, or when it gets views.
what sponcer would sponcer you over someone who has better growth? youtube is controling your economic mobility on their platform this is a killer
so if you go to bitchute, it doesn't matter how long it takes to rebuild your viewership because views are no longer your source of income basically
they will keep tightening the screws until they can actually cause people to lose subscribers and veiws simply due to their algorythmes alone
i mean, look at roosterteeth. They are a pretty big company now. They started doing online videos, for free, way before youtube.
but they did this with first free work, then paid subscriptions on their own site, then branching out to put themselves out there on various stuff.
then they sold merch, downloads, all kinds of things
(i mean, diversify is the best business practice)
it doesent matter where your advertisers come from, if you dont have enough veiws youll eventually stop getting ads. right now advertisers are being experimental because there is a need for it, that wont last
but so long as views == money, people are gonna have a hard time doing and kind of switch. because either its a full switch which may backfire because they get too little views for their remaining capital and need to shut the doors and find a new job, or they put in extra work for little to no returns until one of the alts takes off
@Arch-Fiend yes, but if you have a sponsor, then youtube or bitchute can't say you make no money on this video now
there will be a day when vikings doesent just had out sponcers to just anybody
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