the left is used to attack the religious right

and they think there's nothing else

so they usually aren't prepared to attack "the deviant" (from their PoV)

this is how they get normies though.
"Are you into freedom? Ur a liberal"
"Are you atheist? You're a liberal"

"You don't like politics and use common sense? You're a liberal"

I disagree. I think they tend to win normies because they control all the platforms and tend to gang.

The left fundamentally understands social sciences and influence.

Like, the marxists have been debating how to seize and manipulate power for over a century now.

It's pretty well established the left controls all the soft sciences where this stuff gets studied.

And I know uni programs dedicated to mass persuasion on things like Climate Change.

The tactics are literally lab tested.

they took advantage of the religious right. They claimed (to a point), the scientific side and the atheists side

Jacobin launched a second magazine a mere year after it got popular. The purpose of the second mag? tactics.

Maybe. I'm of the stance that the loss of the religious right is actually going to be a big problem going forward.

they didnt adapt to it

The libertarians and (left wing democratic) liberals have long complained about an inability to effectively organize and a tendency to splinter whenever issues came to be discussed.

I think these groups are converging to "the right"

they dont know how to lure atheists

I don't know. I think they're pushing them away at this point.

The Atheist community fractured after A+ and the Catholics are a bigger community anyway

you know the Daily Wire?

from Ben

Hard to mesh embracing both atheism and islam.

?? I thought the Daily show was Stewart

While rejecting christianity.

they had a lot of good waves, and then randomly they did a lot of religious videos

and well.. they werent ready for the result

Ben Shapiro

ahh

Daily Wire

my bad

anyway, what was the result?

they lost a lot of viewers

after the wave of dislikes, ofc

Sure. The educated millenials are tending atheist.

so they had lefties and rightwingers attacking them

But the overall political calculus favors catholics and other religious groups.

and this brought the religious right defending them

which was EVEN more weird

Yeah, but here's the thing.

The religious right created numerous TV channels like Trinity Broadcasting.

They operate a huge number of radio stations in rural areas.

They tend to actually know how to turn up people IRL to do grunt work like convincing people to vote or doing charity that gets good press locally.

but that turns the others away

Liberals, and libertarians especially always seemed a bit too self-absorbed and disorganized.

Trump won. But the right has no platform for the "regular rightwinger"

I don't see what you mean by that.

My argument is that GamerGate for example hasn't seemed able to actually construct alternatives.

Liberals don't need to organize if they can shit their ideas in public without issue

Yeah, so suppose all the liberals like Tim and the IDW move right.

They don't have the assets to continue speaking.

we agree, GG was big but there's no political movement (organized) or community out of it

And there is a lack of organization to create said assets.

GG had some momentum. They sent Kotaku's advertisers running.

But they failed to convert it into anything really long term.

and the media managed to poison it

I think that's part of it

Like, it had an effect--we probably wouldn't have Kanye endorsing the assistant to TPUSA without it.

But nothing really long term happened.

Yeah, fair. But what do you intend to do about it?

Complain about the media?

To a little GG circle?

There's not really any pressure.

GG helped birth media alternatives, they were just restricted to vidya

Because GG was done for social and financial reasons, not political

I changed my plan to an easier one

What alternatives?

every time I hear about these alternatives they've either turned or failed.

Techraptor got its initial numbers through GG, so did Nichegamer

Well the issue is that ultimately you need to be prepped to dump what doesn't work

It's difficult and constant. There's no long term cure

I moved to Japan, everything will be fine here as long as they don't manage to poison it. Conservatives here are in high number at least.

I can agree to dump the bad options. But this is the first time I heard of nichegamer and I've seen KiA complain about TechRaptor.

Also a surprising number of the GG formed sources are still active

People complained about TR because they threw Micah under the bus, which was garbage

But outside of that one instance they've been decent

So here's the thing.

I missed the initial GG wave. I never heard about this. If they are going to be an effective alternative, you *must* drive traffic.

This wasn't part of the initial wave though

The left refers to it as "signal boosting" and it must be easy to find and constant.

This was part of the results

initially, I didnt care about GG. Because I never consumed Game News

And nichegamer is probably not going to be super broad appeal because it is, at the end of the day, focused on a lot of niche weebshit

they always been shit

anime is the way for the right to win 😏

It hurts smaller devs tho

even if you dont like it

Who get blacklisted

4chan was born with anime

And now /a/ is one of the worst boards

free speech has a lot of connections with anime too

/a/ is "bad" for a reason

nah /v/ is

On v every game is bad

/a/ filters and kicks the normies out

never been to /v/ a lot tbh

People have been banned for discussing anime "wrong"

normies on /v/ it's more usual

New /v/ was good for a while and then people fled to new /vg/

But yeah I've seen some completely batshit bans on /a/

Meanwhile /tg/ remains pure

Ive been out of 4chan for a while, mostly. The last board I was very active in was /biz/

The actual solution to all your issues with other boards is to just go to /tg/. Dungeon Meshi threads, STALKER threads, history threads, religion threads. The only problem is that 4/tg/ didn't split quests and 8 is a little too small

but it was taken over by crypto now