Message from @pratel
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after the wave of dislikes, ofc
Sure. The educated millenials are tending atheist.
so they had lefties and rightwingers attacking them
But the overall political calculus favors catholics and other religious groups.
and this brought the religious right defending them
which was EVEN more weird
Yeah, but here's the thing.
The religious right created numerous TV channels like Trinity Broadcasting.
They operate a huge number of radio stations in rural areas.
They tend to actually know how to turn up people IRL to do grunt work like convincing people to vote or doing charity that gets good press locally.
but that turns the others away
Liberals, and libertarians especially always seemed a bit too self-absorbed and disorganized.
Trump won. But the right has no platform for the "regular rightwinger"
I don't see what you mean by that.
My argument is that GamerGate for example hasn't seemed able to actually construct alternatives.
Liberals don't need to organize if they can shit their ideas in public without issue
Yeah, so suppose all the liberals like Tim and the IDW move right.
They don't have the assets to continue speaking.
we agree, GG was big but there's no political movement (organized) or community out of it
And there is a lack of organization to create said assets.
GG had some momentum. They sent Kotaku's advertisers running.
and the media managed to poison it
I think that's part of it
Like, it had an effect--we probably wouldn't have Kanye endorsing the assistant to TPUSA without it.
But nothing really long term happened.
Yeah, fair. But what do you intend to do about it?
Complain about the media?
To a little GG circle?
There's not really any pressure.
GG helped birth media alternatives, they were just restricted to vidya
Because GG was done for social and financial reasons, not political
I changed my plan to an easier one
What alternatives?
every time I hear about these alternatives they've either turned or failed.
Techraptor got its initial numbers through GG, so did Nichegamer
Well the issue is that ultimately you need to be prepped to dump what doesn't work
It's difficult and constant. There's no long term cure
I moved to Japan, everything will be fine here as long as they don't manage to poison it. Conservatives here are in high number at least.
I can agree to dump the bad options. But this is the first time I heard of nichegamer and I've seen KiA complain about TechRaptor.
Also a surprising number of the GG formed sources are still active
People complained about TR because they threw Micah under the bus, which was garbage
But outside of that one instance they've been decent