Message from @Beemann

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2018-08-01 19:40:03 UTC  

Liberals don't need to organize if they can shit their ideas in public without issue

2018-08-01 19:40:33 UTC  

Yeah, so suppose all the liberals like Tim and the IDW move right.

2018-08-01 19:40:43 UTC  

They don't have the assets to continue speaking.

2018-08-01 19:40:48 UTC  

we agree, GG was big but there's no political movement (organized) or community out of it

2018-08-01 19:41:00 UTC  

And there is a lack of organization to create said assets.

2018-08-01 19:41:24 UTC  

GG had some momentum. They sent Kotaku's advertisers running.

2018-08-01 19:41:35 UTC  

But they failed to convert it into anything really long term.

2018-08-01 19:41:54 UTC  

and the media managed to poison it

2018-08-01 19:42:02 UTC  

I think that's part of it

2018-08-01 19:42:10 UTC  

Like, it had an effect--we probably wouldn't have Kanye endorsing the assistant to TPUSA without it.

But nothing really long term happened.

2018-08-01 19:42:27 UTC  

Yeah, fair. But what do you intend to do about it?

2018-08-01 19:42:32 UTC  

Complain about the media?

2018-08-01 19:42:41 UTC  

To a little GG circle?

2018-08-01 19:42:52 UTC  

There's not really any pressure.

2018-08-01 19:43:02 UTC  

GG helped birth media alternatives, they were just restricted to vidya

2018-08-01 19:43:15 UTC  

Because GG was done for social and financial reasons, not political

2018-08-01 19:43:24 UTC  

I changed my plan to an easier one

2018-08-01 19:43:26 UTC  

What alternatives?

2018-08-01 19:43:39 UTC  

every time I hear about these alternatives they've either turned or failed.

2018-08-01 19:43:51 UTC  

Techraptor got its initial numbers through GG, so did Nichegamer

2018-08-01 19:44:03 UTC  

Well the issue is that ultimately you need to be prepped to dump what doesn't work

2018-08-01 19:44:15 UTC  

It's difficult and constant. There's no long term cure

2018-08-01 19:44:18 UTC  

I moved to Japan, everything will be fine here as long as they don't manage to poison it. Conservatives here are in high number at least.

2018-08-01 19:44:56 UTC  

I can agree to dump the bad options. But this is the first time I heard of nichegamer and I've seen KiA complain about TechRaptor.

2018-08-01 19:45:01 UTC  

Also a surprising number of the GG formed sources are still active

2018-08-01 19:45:28 UTC  

People complained about TR because they threw Micah under the bus, which was garbage

2018-08-01 19:45:44 UTC  

But outside of that one instance they've been decent

2018-08-01 19:46:18 UTC  

So here's the thing.

I missed the initial GG wave. I never heard about this. If they are going to be an effective alternative, you *must* drive traffic.

2018-08-01 19:46:35 UTC  

This wasn't part of the initial wave though

2018-08-01 19:46:35 UTC  

The left refers to it as "signal boosting" and it must be easy to find and constant.

2018-08-01 19:46:39 UTC  

This was part of the results

2018-08-01 19:47:10 UTC  

initially, I didnt care about GG. Because I never consumed Game News

2018-08-01 19:47:12 UTC  

And nichegamer is probably not going to be super broad appeal because it is, at the end of the day, focused on a lot of niche weebshit

2018-08-01 19:47:20 UTC  

they always been shit

2018-08-01 19:47:38 UTC  

anime is the way for the right to win 😏

2018-08-01 19:47:39 UTC  

It hurts smaller devs tho

2018-08-01 19:47:54 UTC  

even if you dont like it

2018-08-01 19:47:59 UTC  

Who get blacklisted

2018-08-01 19:48:07 UTC  

4chan was born with anime

2018-08-01 19:48:21 UTC  

And now /a/ is one of the worst boards

2018-08-01 19:48:23 UTC  

free speech has a lot of connections with anime too