Before the immigration reform of 1965, the immigration policy specifically named white people. You can't really get more outright 'ethnostate' than that.

italians

Sure, but, everyone always finds some difference on some level.

If were were to inherently say that ethnostates work, why are there so many examples of countries with homogeneous genetics that enter into civil wars?

Do we draw some IQ line and say, ok, here ethnostates work, below here they do not?

money only gives people the power to do what they want, it doesent make what they want to do any better. throwing money at foreign countrys without having power to influince the direction those countrys take that money in simply makes that countys problems more expensive. there were good happy communitys during the neolithic. i should also point out that nontransparent control offered along side subsides only works in specific ways, what america does when it controls south american countrys via the cia doesent classify as the kind of direction needed to go along side subsides, at best what it does is protect moneyed intrests

I'm trying to understand what you mean.
"Civil war exists, therefore ethnostates don't work"?

civil wars occure when communication breaks down and segragation isint an option. so id argue that civil war exists where ethnostates dont

For sure, yeah, but like I said, I'm trying to even wrap my head around his argument in the first place.

The civil war part seemed to come out of left field. lol

well consitering my paragraph was in responce to comments 50+ ago im probably behind the loop 😛

I mean there is a direct correlation between the average IQ of a state's population and the functionality of that state.

im not sure i agree

does the usa to you seem like the bastion of high functionality?

Compared to the other countries of the world, especially non-westernized ones, then yes.

which other countries?

Iran, Brazil, Egypt, etc.

There does come an exception when a country is rich in a single resource, but most of these countries are often under the control of a tyrannical government which controls that resource.

Like Saudi Arabia. Aside from their oil reserves they don't have much else going on for them.

Which country was it that had a sharp increase in slavery? Libya? Liberia? One of those.

swedan, uk, france, spain, and china have higher listed iq than the uk

usa*

Yes?

China aside, those countries are also getting flooded with migrants and refugees from the middle east.

which is a symptom and not a cause of all their problems

Agreed, yeah, but the problem being a bunch of open border ideologues getting into positions of power.

Like Merkel.

so not stunning functionality

they arnt ideologues by the way

I didn't say they were pristine, but they would be far better off without crowds of middle-eastern migrants leeching off of their welfare systems and committing a bunch of crime.

they are neolibs

about as far from ideolistic as you can get besides nihilism

The migrant crisis is about an eternal force coming into these countries and ruining them, but these countries functioned just fine on their own without being sabotaged. That's not a weakness of the system or the country's populace, just those that hold the reins.

Besides, aren't these countries part of the EU, which is a body unelected by the populace of it's member countries?

the people whom dictate the direction of the governments of those nations and their economic union were elected by someone and were there before those people directed the nations to accept uncontroled immigration

Ultimately, those people made the decisions that they did once they were elected in.

Hindsight is always 20/20.

Well, almost always...

so not very functional toward the well being of the nation

dispite the high iq

I was just using a civil war as an example of where ethnostates might fail to properly correct for cultural issues that run deeper than mere race. It's a pretty big one and no, I'm not explicitly stating that no ethnostate can have a civil war. Just an example of instabilities that do not require multiculturalism as a factor.

The smaller ones are really pretty hard to point out, some are easier

Well, yeah, people will always have a reason to fight amongst each other, you can't change that.

i think ethno can have its defintion broadened beyond race in order to cover for other cultural problems, consitering ethnicity isint race and ethnicity actually does cover culture

Isn't an ethnostate supposed to mean less infighting?

Less, but not 'none.'
Violence is going to occurr one way or another.

Keep in mind I did have the african countries in my head when I was establishing this but it can extend to pretty much any race

A monoracial society has less infighting than a multiracial society.

I just don't accept that a society wasn't functioning properly just because it was sabotaged by a few from within.

an ethnostate is supose to use segregation where communication breaks down and war wishes to be avoided when a problem is deemed to be caused from a lack of social coesion of its population

A few from within?

The jews.

People that are pro open-borders like Trudeu, Merkel, communists, etc.

OK but it's clearly not just them

There are large swaths of the population that don't understand that a massive influx of economic migrants is detrimental

Minus the sabotage, were the country allowed to carry on like normal, there is little to no risk of collapse; in fact, the fact that it took something like the migrant crisis to actually bring these countries down to the risk of breaking down is pretty telling in and of itself.

If it was the majority would you call it "A Few from within"?

in theory a monoracial society would have less differences in the population in order to cause conflict with eachother, but just the same europe has been at war with itself for 10 thousand years

It's not the majority.

The thing is Jews have promoted open borders and multiculturalism.

How much of the German population actually supported the Nazis during their rise to power? 3%? Well, that didn't stop them now, did it?

What if it was close to a majority? What if it was 20 percent? Is that still a few?

thing is europeans have adopted open borders and multiculturalism

What's the `few` when we're talking about emotionally driven cocksuckers making shitty decisions?

I agree a vangard leads a country not the majorty it just depends who leads the country.

whos the fool, the fool or the fool who follows the fool?

yes

Those that are actually in the positions of power capable of effecting the change they want, I would say.

The population is, though, by petitioning the gov't that they want to cry over haji babies

I agree that the 'silent majority' is useless because they're inactive though, yes.

Now keep in mind, I don't have the exact stats for that shitty decision, but I do for /other/ shitty decisions.

@Arch-Fiend That's becuase jews pressure the leades to.

There are even some decisions that legislators will firewall no matter what

Such as federal legalization of dope

Yeah.

Swaths of people have been petitioning the feds for fuckin' /years/ and jack shit gets done.

I would say 'they need to vote in different people then', but we both know this isn't going to happen so long as the majority is politically inactive and uneducated.

I think the polls showed that it was something like 70% of the population thinks the DEA's current stance on it is retarded

@Ghostler I dissagree if you put it in a certin why the goverment can be forced to do anything just look at the 1965 immigration act.

Well, we don't vote on it, we vote for people who vote for people who then vote on it

And then typically the people we vote for don't vote on the things we want them to vote for.

lots of folks don't understand the intricate nature of things and are relatively single issue

So it comes down to "but we know more than the plebs."

This sums up the American political system.

it's just the way things go when you're dealing with the populace at large. They aren't really stupid per-se, they just don't have the time to grasp every single consequence

Yeah.

I know this is really bad/convenient timing, but I need to go to work in a bit.

I wish I could say I would like to carry on the conversation when I get back, but I'll probably forget half of the things talked about here before I even finish working. lol

If it's still going on I'll try to remember.

see you latter mate.

I'm probably lower on the IQ range. kek

I've got work too so forgetabout it furfag

Perhaps later

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does that make _any_ difference?

what's next? She also wasn't a vegan because she ate eggs or something? 😏