Do we draw some IQ line and say, ok, here ethnostates work, below here they do not?

money only gives people the power to do what they want, it doesent make what they want to do any better. throwing money at foreign countrys without having power to influince the direction those countrys take that money in simply makes that countys problems more expensive. there were good happy communitys during the neolithic. i should also point out that nontransparent control offered along side subsides only works in specific ways, what america does when it controls south american countrys via the cia doesent classify as the kind of direction needed to go along side subsides, at best what it does is protect moneyed intrests

I'm trying to understand what you mean.
"Civil war exists, therefore ethnostates don't work"?

civil wars occure when communication breaks down and segragation isint an option. so id argue that civil war exists where ethnostates dont

For sure, yeah, but like I said, I'm trying to even wrap my head around his argument in the first place.

The civil war part seemed to come out of left field. lol

well consitering my paragraph was in responce to comments 50+ ago im probably behind the loop 😛

I mean there is a direct correlation between the average IQ of a state's population and the functionality of that state.

im not sure i agree

does the usa to you seem like the bastion of high functionality?

Compared to the other countries of the world, especially non-westernized ones, then yes.

which other countries?

Iran, Brazil, Egypt, etc.

There does come an exception when a country is rich in a single resource, but most of these countries are often under the control of a tyrannical government which controls that resource.

Like Saudi Arabia. Aside from their oil reserves they don't have much else going on for them.

Which country was it that had a sharp increase in slavery? Libya? Liberia? One of those.

swedan, uk, france, spain, and china have higher listed iq than the uk

usa*

Yes?

China aside, those countries are also getting flooded with migrants and refugees from the middle east.

which is a symptom and not a cause of all their problems

Agreed, yeah, but the problem being a bunch of open border ideologues getting into positions of power.

Like Merkel.

so not stunning functionality

they arnt ideologues by the way

I didn't say they were pristine, but they would be far better off without crowds of middle-eastern migrants leeching off of their welfare systems and committing a bunch of crime.

they are neolibs

about as far from ideolistic as you can get besides nihilism

The migrant crisis is about an eternal force coming into these countries and ruining them, but these countries functioned just fine on their own without being sabotaged. That's not a weakness of the system or the country's populace, just those that hold the reins.

Besides, aren't these countries part of the EU, which is a body unelected by the populace of it's member countries?

the people whom dictate the direction of the governments of those nations and their economic union were elected by someone and were there before those people directed the nations to accept uncontroled immigration

Ultimately, those people made the decisions that they did once they were elected in.

Hindsight is always 20/20.

Well, almost always...

so not very functional toward the well being of the nation

dispite the high iq

I was just using a civil war as an example of where ethnostates might fail to properly correct for cultural issues that run deeper than mere race. It's a pretty big one and no, I'm not explicitly stating that no ethnostate can have a civil war. Just an example of instabilities that do not require multiculturalism as a factor.

The smaller ones are really pretty hard to point out, some are easier

Well, yeah, people will always have a reason to fight amongst each other, you can't change that.

i think ethno can have its defintion broadened beyond race in order to cover for other cultural problems, consitering ethnicity isint race and ethnicity actually does cover culture

Isn't an ethnostate supposed to mean less infighting?