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2018-07-28 05:46:57 UTC

Yeah we don't have that in Australia... the government actively tries to restrict how much we, as shooters can do

2018-07-28 05:47:01 UTC

They give grants to school shooting teams.

2018-07-28 05:47:17 UTC

for me to go shooting, I need to travel 90 minutes to a 500m range and that's all I've got

2018-07-28 05:47:38 UTC

Gun training in school is basically dead outside the countryside.

2018-07-28 05:48:03 UTC

Our public land for hunting is slowly being made into national parks

2018-07-28 05:48:08 UTC

it's all kinds of fucked up

2018-07-28 05:48:14 UTC

and what do you mean?

2018-07-28 05:48:33 UTC

There are high schools in NYC that had functional shooting ranges.

2018-07-28 05:48:51 UTC

They now sit abandoned and attempts to restart them are met with fierce resistance.

2018-07-28 05:49:31 UTC

That'd be fantastic

2018-07-28 05:49:38 UTC

Sport shooting is actually on the rise in places like Minnesota. But NYS just banned shooting sports (including archery) in the whole state. Syracuse had a nationally recognized trap team and was ****'d

2018-07-28 05:49:39 UTC

fucking hell...

2018-07-28 05:49:56 UTC

But NYC rules NYS politics. So Syracuse shooting has to go...

2018-07-28 05:50:19 UTC

It's like that nationwide.

2018-07-28 05:50:22 UTC

I imagine most of the population is in NYC

2018-07-28 05:50:28 UTC

it's fucking stupid

2018-07-28 05:50:36 UTC

roughly 2/3 the NYS population is in NYC.

2018-07-28 05:50:48 UTC

Upstate is basically just a state park as far as they are concerned.

2018-07-28 05:51:11 UTC

that's actually so ridiculous, I've been watching a lot of 3 gun competitions... I tell you what. if someone tried to get that legalised in Australia where we were able to buy semi automatics for sport shootings the fucking greens would have a stroke

2018-07-28 05:51:18 UTC

I would LOVE to shoot three gun

2018-07-28 05:51:42 UTC

Yep.

2018-07-28 05:51:58 UTC

For me to acquire a semi automatic rifle is near impossible

2018-07-28 05:52:11 UTC

Itโ€™s idiotic

2018-07-28 05:52:19 UTC

As an aside, the new gun control push is being financed almost entirely be Bloomberg. His previous claim to fame? He banned soft drinks in NYC.

2018-07-28 05:52:32 UTC

Hahahahahahahahahahaha

2018-07-28 05:52:46 UTC

I'm not even kidding. It's said he has more money than the domestic US gun industry and is bankrolling Everytown.

2018-07-28 05:53:05 UTC

Thatโ€™s disgusting

2018-07-28 05:53:11 UTC

David Hogg is just a puppet. He didn't really write his book. Bloomberg paid someone to write it for him and he signed it.

2018-07-28 05:53:29 UTC

Of course he is, he has 0 clue about firearms and you can tell

2018-07-28 05:53:29 UTC

Want to know how David Hogg affords to tour the country in style?

2018-07-28 05:53:49 UTC

Bloomberg. Wannabe Democrat Presidential nominee 2020.

2018-07-28 05:53:55 UTC

Of course heโ€™d be funded... just like the majority of the mass protests.

2018-07-28 05:54:04 UTC

The leaders are paid, the protesters are sheep

2018-07-28 05:54:23 UTC

Have you watched any videos from โ€œfleccas talksโ€ or โ€œnuance broโ€

2018-07-28 05:54:42 UTC

On the other hand, Bloomberg is absolute horror to the socialists. He's literally a Wall Street guy and has gone on the record saying he thinks taxes should be regressive to control and influence people to adopt good behaviors.

2018-07-28 05:55:08 UTC

David Hogg is so pretentious

2018-07-28 05:55:24 UTC

He acts like he represents all teenagers

2018-07-28 05:55:31 UTC

All the Parkland spokespeople are.

2018-07-28 05:55:40 UTC

They drive me insane.

2018-07-28 05:55:45 UTC

Hahahaha yeah itโ€™s a weird situation with that bloke

2018-07-28 05:56:03 UTC

They're good at dialectic and rallying a crowd. But they really abuse the art if you know what to look for.

2018-07-28 05:56:36 UTC

Itโ€™s so obvious

2018-07-28 05:56:41 UTC

Idk how people fall for it

2018-07-28 05:56:55 UTC

I *think* Tim is quietly rooting for Bloomberg to keep the Democrats to not go Socialist so he can vote for him. I don't know if he knows what Bloomberg is known for in NY. Most people don't.

2018-07-28 05:57:12 UTC

Same way you rally any crowd to be honest. It's all rhetoric.

2018-07-28 05:57:51 UTC

People who are already predisposed to agree tend to bite hook, line and sinker.

2018-07-28 05:58:03 UTC

Tim is from NY isnโ€™t he? Surely he knows

2018-07-28 05:58:15 UTC

No, Tim is from Chicago (Illinois)

2018-07-28 05:58:20 UTC

Rifht

2018-07-28 05:58:32 UTC

The unfortunate reality is that most people prefer security over freedom.

2018-07-28 05:58:32 UTC

I should know that hahaha he says it enough

2018-07-28 05:58:42 UTC

Mmhm

2018-07-28 05:59:28 UTC

*insert Ben Franklin quote*

2018-07-28 06:00:14 UTC

Actually, kinda curious what people think of the new CA plastic straw ban. That's totally up Bloomberg's creek.

2018-07-28 06:00:40 UTC

I love that quote tbh

2018-07-28 06:00:56 UTC

It's an amazing quote. I think all Libertarian-leaners love it.

2018-07-28 06:01:08 UTC

And this one. If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so.

2018-07-28 06:01:16 UTC

Yep.

2018-07-28 06:01:36 UTC

Thatโ€™s why even though itโ€™s illegal, if someone enters my home. Theyโ€™re not leaving alive

2018-07-28 06:01:44 UTC

Illegally*

2018-07-28 06:02:17 UTC

I should ask, are you from a city or a rural area? I'm working on a theory about density and political inclinations.

2018-07-28 06:02:46 UTC

Semi rural

2018-07-28 06:02:56 UTC

And I donโ€™t have one

2018-07-28 06:03:11 UTC

I like what I like and support what I support

2018-07-28 06:03:23 UTC

Tend to lean classic liberal more than anything

2018-07-28 06:04:01 UTC

Yeah, I'm coming to suspect that people who are more rural are more freedom-oriented and tend to adopt more generalist and self-reliant attitudes.

2018-07-28 06:04:02 UTC

My 8 values says liberal haha

2018-07-28 06:04:39 UTC

*generalist meaning it's better to know how to both fix your car and cook your meals and peddle a trade than just one of the above.

2018-07-28 06:04:41 UTC

Iโ€™m like 45 minutes from the city

2018-07-28 06:04:46 UTC

Melbourne *

2018-07-28 06:05:01 UTC

Is it a suburb or just aways away?

2018-07-28 06:05:41 UTC

Suburb but borders a bunch of farms and shit

2018-07-28 06:05:53 UTC

As I said, semi rural

2018-07-28 06:06:02 UTC

I think I read you.

2018-07-28 06:06:35 UTC

Just outside the edge of where the town is really developed. Close enough you are essentially part of the city, but it's mostly going to be stuff like warehouses.

2018-07-28 06:06:44 UTC

Yeah thatโ€™s the one

2018-07-28 06:08:16 UTC

Literally borders rural hahaha

2018-07-28 06:08:57 UTC

Yeah, I'm in a really urban center where if you drive for just 5 minutes it's farms for hours.

2018-07-28 06:09:11 UTC

But it's still effectively really linked to NYC so you see it all.

2018-07-28 06:09:47 UTC

Both rural Upstate and urban Downstate.

2018-07-28 06:09:58 UTC

It's literally Hillary versus Trump to be honest.

2018-07-28 06:10:31 UTC

Oh youโ€™re in NY

2018-07-28 06:10:34 UTC

Hillary is corrupt and measured. Trump is Loud and Angry.

2018-07-28 06:10:39 UTC

Basically, close to PA.

2018-07-28 06:10:43 UTC

Hahahaha trump is a meme

2018-07-28 06:10:56 UTC

Yeah, he's more a symbol than anything.

2018-07-28 06:11:03 UTC

Absolutely

2018-07-28 06:11:10 UTC

He was a middle finger to the world

2018-07-28 06:11:27 UTC

Pretty much. He's the middle finger Upstate has wanted to send downstate for decades.

2018-07-28 06:11:28 UTC

And political correctness

2018-07-28 06:11:33 UTC

Lol

2018-07-28 06:11:57 UTC

The whole "flyover country" meme is a real effect. And the people in Upstate meet people in NYC and know it.

2018-07-28 06:12:03 UTC

The republicans need to capitalise on ocasio Cortez

2018-07-28 06:12:13 UTC

I'm sure they're looking into it.

2018-07-28 06:12:31 UTC

The last election they pinned up the Californian delegation as too extreme.

2018-07-28 06:13:09 UTC

If NY goes red

2018-07-28 06:13:21 UTC

It won't. Unless you mean communist.

2018-07-28 06:13:24 UTC

Itโ€™ll never happen but if it does the democrats are fucked

2018-07-28 06:13:44 UTC

Either way tbh

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