Exactly, he is the model American.

-_- cuz he can't handle his mouth?

about what everybody else expects, to be honest with you. I don't know many people that really care, when americans act like that. It's pretty much how america started, ask someone on the street if they find vandalism wrong, then compare it to the boston tea party. People who run their mouth have a place in this world. And the constitution is built to preserve them.

Personally, I'd like to see a couple more long rifles in that case...

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@pratel nah dude, as an outsider looking in and from what I know of America if the democrats continue leaning into socialism there is 0 chance of the Democrats winning.
ESPECIALLY if the Republicans capitalise on this exact thing and the illiberal nature of socialism/communism.

I'd be inclined to believe you, but we live in unusual times. I've also seen weirder things. Romney in 2012 polled better on basically every issue but still lost hard.

However if this was happening in my country (Australia) socialism would win over liberty because we have no ingrained freedom in my country

and it's slowly being eroded

Trump has incumbency advantage, but that's not a guarantee. Particularly if Mueller succeeds in finding something.

That's actually a scary thing for me. The Schools quit teaching freedom as an ideal about 20 years ago.

Holding office doesn't guarantee shit

It's actually a big part of why I think we're seeing the rise of social justice *now*. We've got a whole generation and a new one that doesn't really prize freedom anymore.

although I don't think there has been a single term presidency for a few decades

freedom is a dead ideology

The last single term was George HW Bush in 1988-1992.

and is why UKIP is rising in the UK

There you go

UKIPs rise in the United Kingdom is one of the most fascinating things I've ever seen in politics

The US has been remade before.

This is true

There is a discussion of secession from the crown happening in Australia right now

It would not be unbelievable that some kind of socialist groundswell could atleast turn it into somethign resembling a commonwealth country.

and that's one of the most frightening things for me to imagine at a time like this

Does the crown really matter that much?

not really

I got the impression that Australia was independent in all but name.

not at all

we still have a crown appointed Governor General

and that (i believe) holds favour in high courts

laws stopped being influenced by the crown a couple of decades ago

I'm just wondering what would change to where it's so scary.

Would it be a symbolic loss that might affect defense or trade relations for example?

If we were to secede from the crown

We would be open to our country losing all freedoms that are implied right now

We have too many far left radicals in the media, our left wing is spineless

Our greens are commies and hate freedom

We already have “hate speech” legislation

I think that describes the entire anglosphere to be honest.

The US just lost it's strongest, largest defender of free speech, which means it's probably only a matter of time before it gets limited. Said defender already lobbies against firearms.

Possibly