So, what I think we've been arguing this whole time

it was only if it was valid

are the two perspectives, both of which would crack this decision open

Because in the example I gave before....

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1. Any action taken by the president is an action of the government
2. Donald Trump's personal twitter account is to be considered an open public forum
3. Twitter, as a whole, as a privately owned company, may remain a private forum```

2 and 3 can't coexist.

I mean, I guess technically, they can

But unless we get activist decisions up through the supreme court

it's going to give.

ok I get it now

Either Everyone gets Twitter

the life of the President belong to the govt while he is in office, something like that

or Trump gets to block people.

Either way, they've got a bad day ahead of themselves for even trying.

The only way, realistically, for Trump's private account to be upheld as a public forum

is for all of twitter to be opened

or at least for a pathway rule to be opened

where on certain accounts, everyone has free unfettered access.

ok now Im confused af

possibly banned from other communications

Oh, they are too. don't worry.

we'll see how things play out. i think there is too many levels to this for use to really know.

unless we get in some speech lawyers in here

If it expands to the point where Twitter becomes a public forum

the entire internet might be in danger of rampant free speech everywhere...

this seems to be something that is not an official law, but a legal precedent. which means we need to know all the relevant cases and their outcomes

Just imagine the conflict. Europe says ban this or you get fined. US says don't ban this or you get fined....

Like they said, it's Pandora's box.

And I don't think the people behind the lawsuit here are willing to close it.

i have a feeling the goal is just to make it so trump cannot block political enemies.

That's the goal

so we shall see if that is all this ruling really does

But as they teach you on the gun range

always know what's beyond your target.

but already, by making his twitter a public forum, that means the government cannot use that new trafficking law against twitter.

because then they would be blocking people from a public forum

if they took down twitter

dude this is to confusing

and Ive been drinking

This fucking paradox is amusing.

He is not preventing anyone from using the public forum

I'm literally laughing at it all.

he is just ignoring what they say

Ivan, they're saying the comments on his post are the public forum.

actually, if twitter isn't run by complete SJWs and instead just bends to whoever is loudest, they could fire all their moderation team, unban everyone, and just the thing go wild and see what money they can make

wtf

a comment on his post is literally a message directed at him

with his twitter handle

they can just tell people "sorry, legally not allowed anymore"

ppl can still talk about it between themselves

If you really think about it

what they've defined

is that the word @realdonaldtrump is a public forum.

which hardly makes sense when you think of it in deconstructed form like that.

regardless this will be amusing. I'm surprised trump blocked people at all. seems like he enjoys yelling at them too much.

i'd laugh if the salty person has been blocked since between he became POTUS

Did you ever actually check his twitter in the early days, before he started blocking?

Another way of looking at this is that they're legally instituting the right of the American people to commit harassment against a sitting president.

exactly

they could talk about it in a hashtag

but no

they want to direct it at him

because they want the sweet traffic that comes from his tweets

I'm fine with that.

I'm about to link some shit in Shitposting.

There really is no down side to this.

We all should be using a decentralyzed twitter anyway

its just text, it should be easy

Amazing spelling.

bro

Im not english

and Ive had 2 bottles of wine

Actually, I was going to go with drunk

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That is more what I was making fun of. Since you said you were drunk before.

Im not that drunk rly, is more the sleep deprivation

I've drink the two bottles over a period of like 8 hours

Alcohol + lack of sleep =/= good ability to communicate

my english sucks anyway

It's been fine minus spelling decentralized. And really it was only the y in place of an i. Which is a pretty easy mistake to make

But yeah, I can see this possibly expanding Free Speech beyond it's limits, which could be interesting

Combined with supreme court rulings against limiting hate speech... yeah...

Although this also seems to establish a right to be heard, which is not part of the right to free speech.

All in all though, it'll be fun to watch a chaotic backfire at the expense of purveyors of chaos.

I don't know what I want more. For Trump (and all other politicians) to not be allowed to block people and trolls just spamming the crap out of the Democrats or for the ruling to be thrown out and Dems can't use Trumps Twitter as a springboard.

I mean, yeah. They've created a hillarious trap of high expectations for themselves.

The winning move was to not play.

They don't know how to win.

@Timcast this is also pretty interesting https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/24/irish-anti-abortion-campaigners-dodge-google-ad-ban

Putting those adds into mobile games is an ingenious move lol

"Kiloo, the Danish developer behind the popular Subway Surfers mobile game, said it was baffled by how Irish players were seeing anti-abortion adverts and insisted: “In no way do we want anything political like this in our game.”

Shows that even the game devs have no real influence what adds show in their games

Its all automated targeting done by add bots

It ends pretty ominously

"Anti-abortion groups claim Google’s decision to unilaterally ban all adverts relating to the Irish referendum shows “direct foreign interference in a referendum campaign” but Dwyer said the company had set a global precedent, which it would now come under pressure to replicate in future elections around the world. “It shouldn’t be these companies that are self-regulating, it should be our government that is setting the rules that they then have to follow.”

Bearing's YouTube channel has been terminated, it seems

https://twitter.com/BBCTwo/status/999243551639662593?s=20

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/may/24/trump-blocked-me-on-twitter-not-any-more-first-amendment-court-ruling

I like the commenters are telling her she is stupid

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