im more worried about genetic manipulation having unforseen long term consequences

as knowing everything a series of genes does is near impossible

like..

lets say you imprint smarty genes on africans

cant do all of em, impossible task

so some get smarter then others

smart people tend to breed with each other more then with dumber people, on average

will this create expression of regressed genes in the new african elite?

good news for that though is that troughout the ages smart peeps tend to have enough resources to pass off more offspring, known as the multi generational wealth distribution effect

i dono, its very complex, which is why we need more data, maybe about blue hats, too see where we can meddle with things without pulling the rug from out under the entire stack of cards

and part of the reason we dont get data on this specificly, is because race and IQ is soo touchy

we are not allowed to know what we need to know to fix the problem

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race and IQ isnt touchy, if you stand by facts, the facts will speak for themselves,

If you believe all races have the same average IQ, you shouldn't be afraid of getting it tested to put it into factual evidence, and if you turn out to be wrong and there IS difference, then the matter is closed too. That said, why would a difference in IQ change how you treat other races? we don't treat the dummies in society any different now either

you tailor solutions to the person you talk too, that is obvious

i dont think they will have the same average IQ - I think it will be different and different times .. because its made up of random people

if you are trying to solve a problem for a avg iq of 80 country, you gotta know how simple you need to make it

sample size are inormous wacka

it doesnt matter how big the sample size is

keep in mind, the US miletary does not accept recruits under 80IQ, because they cant do anything with them, even during war. its in their law

i couldn't distinguish between a 100 iq person and an 80 iq one, since i consider 95% of the population to be subject to idiocy

how big brained of you

so even if the sample size is 7 billion people, theoretically, it would not be representative wacka?

it would still be meaningless . yes

you understand what a science is?

i dont think you understand what "average" means

it doesnt matter because you still cant determine its based on race

sure you can

to create theories that make better then chance predictions about society

you could take 7 billion people in 100 years time and have a comletely different result

but if you trace their liniage you would be able to create pretty good estimates

that is why you use the word "average"

its like... ok lets say you ask 7 billion people to pick a number between 1 and 10... andit happens that black people tend to pick the number 8 more than others ... thats meaningless... in 100 years time.. they might pick 4

but its not like picking a random number

thats cuz you are now querrying a random value

and you are querying random people

you give the same person 10 different IQ tests, and they all give the same, or close to the same result

yes, i'm querying random people on the same series of questions

if one sample group performs noticably worse

i can say that that sample group on average performs worse

really.. do they take the test multiple times... dont think they do

not all the time ofc, but leme tell you how a new baby IQ test becomes an adult

you take the baby IQ test, and another well established one, and then a couple more for good measure, and then you quiz a random group of people

if he lil baby IQ test gives about the same result as the other ones, you get a proven IQ test

its valid across the general intelligence spectrum

do this a couple times with a couple different groups in different countries etc, and it becomes well established

i dont think you know how IQ is measured

IQ is based on the average of the group you tested

group of people... not group of races

yes, and if you give the entire human race the same IQ test

you can still categorise them according to race

and said category... would be meaningless

what makes you say that?

just like if you group them by what colour hat they wear

yes you can do that too

you could, but you wont get data that shows differences between hats

so what will it mean if blue hat wearers are smarter? will you start going around wearing a blue hat?

regardless, take it up in the questionare, perhaps you will be surprized

the difference is that blue hats are exchangable

you can't suddenly become a chinese person

ok hair colour

yes

eye colour

with that you can definately test to see if blonde people on average are dumber than for example brown haired ones

length of toes

yes

wtf does it matter?

the end is that you know

does there have to be a negative point proven?

actually, lenghts of digits correlates with testosterone

well... you dont know really... do you? ... you know for that set of data... then it might turn out the yellow har wearers have higher IQ next time

pretty funny tbh

yes

or blue eyed people next time

or red heads

absolutely

and you take it all into account

all the data

yeah .. and you still dont know

cos its random

and if the results are consistent every time they take the test?

and you will find blue eyed people likely will only matter as much as they are common in white races, and not in african or asian races

say that every time the blue eyed people score lower than brown eyed people by a noticable margin?

its alsmost like things like eye colour can be because of genes, but intelligence is somehow not important or all equal

heres the thing Wacka, if you test them for all that, and the results keep changing with different values on top,

You have PROVEN that they don't have an impact

say I win on black at the roulette table 10 times in a row .. so what? what do you know now?

are you going to pick black now? .. its still 50 50

we dont do 10 times my dide

thats gambling with RNG

think.. 100.000's

and on that avergate you will find 50/50

especially for something as easy to trial as roulette

look Wacka, if you test all people for a difference in Race to IQ ratio, and the races who come out "better" keep changing, you've DISPROVEN that race has a difference in IQ

if however it shows a clear difference, you have instead proven it

that there is a difference

but that does happen ... pretty sure that happens

like in some groups black people will have higher IQs than white people ...

unless you are actually claiming that every test with 10 or more people thats been conducted has always shown one result

no, i'm claiming, that if we were to test the entire world with the same IQ test, and you rate them by race to IQ ratio,

the result is relevant, because if say on average black people score 20 points lower, you have then proven that in current humanity, black people are on AVERAGE lower of IQ

if that is NOT the case, and on average they are the same