Gabs market is their issue

if I heard correctly

Gab will innovate I hope.

To get around this bullying.

I think Gab is shit, specially on the tech side. But I'm now kinda siding with them after what they did to them

Yes, its a free speech platform for all,

But if other platforms ban criminals/nazis/trolls/hatemongers etc

They'll automatically be drawn to the one that doesnt, and you'll get a permanent stain on your label


Cuz even if the people of gab don't like those people, they have to be allowed on for Gabs mission statement

and their competitors will gladly get rid of them for that

i mean it IS the issue

"If you don't like twitter, start your own twitter"

and when peopel do, it gets banned

so you can't have a free market

the problem is that if you embrace free speech, they will ALL, as a collective, label them as criminals/nazis/trolls/hatemongers

yes

thats what i said

you'll just get stained

If the first amendment if extended to the internet that might fix it?

this kinda makes me think we need some platforms that are more underground

For the US anyway

and to become bigger gradually

to the point of being too big to shutdown at that point

They will all be called nazi sites/groups if they are found out though @.B

they can't do it if they have millions of users

the narrative doesn't stand

I'm a dev, I'm tempted to start one tbh

A streaming site? or something else?

probably without streaming at first. There's no way to create a streaming site that is profitable

nowadays at least

@Dr.Wol What does Gab mean?

https://gab.ai/

they have some interesting documents up btw
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1709244/000170924418000001/GAB_-_Annual_Report_-_2018.pdf

That's the problem with being open to anyone, yiu will end full of weirdos that no one else wants. Just ask the furries :D

> There's no way to create a streaming site that is profitable
nowadays at least

bittorrent had a peer to peer live streaming protocol that they scuttled when they failed to raise money
that p2p approach would reduce serving costs to the point that a streaming site could work

( and such a protocol could be re-created )

the issue with a streaming service like that is you need actual users to share, so a less popular video might be very slow while popular videos might be super fast

however you could use a server to make up for that offset

therefore having the benifits of both

@paradigm the problem is that most normies don't want the tradeoff that come with a P2P streaming service

and I mean a FULL P2P system

not what bitchute does

so essentially having it like, If video speed is under the required amount for that quality setting then use the server to make up for it, if the video passes the requirement then use P2P

the problem is that users can easily be hostile to it

what do you mean by "hostile"?

in this context

we are Screwed Blued and Tattooed

without going too much into detail. But if a site like that became popular, an addon that blocks seeding would be enough to ruin it

Eww 🤢 I just saw a Muslim woman got elected

I did some projects in Bittorrent

it is really easy to exploit it

Ilhan Omar

I assume bitchute leverages webtorrent with the webseed BEP in the torrents
no?

Rashida Tlaib

what would block seeding @.B

@paradigm they need to store every video on their side

you just need to block uploading on webtorrent

America proud to embrace the Muslims

As their new overlord

how close are let's say torrents to a "full" P2P system?

they have chosen that requirement @.B
but storage and static torrent serving are dirt cheap

@Asteral they have a built-in streaming service

it's incredibly easy

bittorrent = p2p
one may fairly consider it a reference implementation

storage isn't cheap if you give free rights to every user to upload what they want

👆

did you ever pay for a server?

I have

it's expensive

even bandwidth is expensive af

sure @.B
so use IPFS and require people to supply their own master copy

bandwidth is cheap

yeah, for instance a back up server of mutliple TB's requires a fee when downloading it

bandwidth is cheap on residential contracts

not for servers

do tell

heh

make a simulation on it

go to amazon

and put 1 petabyte

don't pay retail at that rate

then add the costs for Cloudflare (which you will need)

negotiate a contract

1 peta is maybe a bit much

no?

4chan has more bandwidth usage per month than that

and they don't do video

will be under 2c / Gb
even if you are an incompetent negotiator

1 peta is nothing

that's 20000$ for 1 peta, per month alone

sure

and that is cheap

because of those prices I have decided to simply store everything myself, using a NAS and a backup located somewhere else

without costs for the servers, storage or loadbalancing

if you can't make 100k a month at that scale
then your business model is broken

out of what? ads?

that's up to you - this is your idea

I was the one that first stated that it was unprofitable

if you want to argue that it is

than say why/how

no free consulting

than why even start the discussion?

but if you don't have a model in the black at that scale,
then you don't have a good idea