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Traditionalist Lifestyle/Reactionary Messaging meets Age of Modernity and that's the Future
that's how i see it
Someone else asked the same question. Nazi Germany was big on scientists and psychology testing as well.
Having said that, all those trappings also did served secondary purposes. They bolstered morale. Imagine you as a farm kid from some country province never owning but one pair of home spun pants and maybe two pair of trousers, all of a sudden decked out in a glitzy new multicolored uniform marching in a regiment of likewise decked out men, and your regiment was but one of a host in a Division and only one of several divisions in an army! You would feel invincible.
He's so right when Jordan Peterson says this, if we were Germans of that time, especially young.. we'd have probably been Nazi Soldiers instead of fighting against them as we imagine ourselves :D
It is just fascinating in sense. History of military uniforms is interesting.
I guess this is the reason why we do have some many design choices in even our nation, United States, that seems to have influence from Nazi Germany.
@Timcast This explains anime villains looking like nazis. It is a benchmark for evil!
Since their birth in the 1930s, Nazi uniforms have served as a benchmark for โevilโ costume design. Given the scope of their crimes and the staggering level of atrocities the Nazis were responsible for, it is no huge surprise that modern fiction often stylizes its villains as Nazi-esque.Nazism is an easy signifier for audiences that the bad guys are, well, bad. We have seen it time and time again in film. Take George Lucasโs The Empire Strikes Back, for example. The Galactic Empire in their military-style getups could easily be mistaken for being Third Reich. Lucas has even admitted as much:โThe Nazis are basically the same costume as we used in the first film, and they are designed to be very authoritarian, very Empire-like.โ
Yeah nazis are always potrayed as evil and bad. And people buy that stuff just by watching movies.
and ignore that in reality nazis were good for their people, race and nation.
-_-.... Nazis were evil. They committed genocide and horrific experiment on humans.
That is like the lowest of low you can go.
maybe, hugo boss tho :^)
If only they actyally genocided jews world would be so much better place.
And what you mean by horrific experiments on humans๐ค
Do you think every nazi was responsible for genocide and horrific experimentation on humans? Some pretty fucked up shit happened under capitalism, for example, furries would never have happened under Nazi rule ;)
Look up Nazi Human Experimentation, documentation, and even words from actual Nazi.
can we not
There was human horrific horrific human expeirmentation.
equating gassing people to furries ๐๐ฟ
Most notorious being the twins experiments.
just to play the devil's advocate, US govt has done very unethical human experiments too but we usually never talk about that
Have you ever seen the horrific stuff done in American history? Look up the shit mental hospitals used to get away with, or top secret mk ultra programs etc.
Oh the holohoax stories
Lamp shades and soap
Yeah I seen what United States has done... rogue military entities performing experiments. That happens in all nations.
But Nazi Germany actually approved it through state.
that stuff isn't publicized because it doesn't make for good Victor's Propaganda, just think about it lol
There is unethical scientists in all nations.
It depends if the Government supports it or condones it.
You are talking as if genocide and human experimentation was an option at the polls
History is written by the winners.
There were specific programs that US govt funded that required human experimentation, it wasn't just an oops this bad scientist did it all
I condone all human experimentation and genocide. I can't deny it has happen by United States hands.
About genocide too, many worse genocide have happened before and following the Holocaust but we aren't taught those in any great detail
It is weird though... I think we are all jaded to that.
Most people don't know the details of Holodomor, Great Leap Forward and Killing Fields of Cambodia
Because scale determines the outrage lately.
it's not the scale
what should determine the outrage?
I think all experiments should have equal outrage.
it's humanly impossible
But human nature tends to write off horrible things.
If it is small scale.
When it is in large scale, that is a shock to our systems.
We can't believe something happen.
But it happen gradually.
Some of these genocides will inevitably be more talked about for Political Reasons just like some Slave Trades will be more talked about for Political Reasons
that's what I think
To be honest, these are things I don't have fully answers too regarding United States and human experimentation.
It's Narrative Building in a Society. Our Outrage has absolutely nothing to do with facts
Most of the experiments I heard were wavers signed, but the test subjects didn't realize the extent of testing.
Basically they had information withheld from them.
But that is just information that has been released.
So it paints a half picture, because there is classified information.
That is probably much much worse.
yeah we only know about Nazi experiments because the state fell, who knows what US did during the same time
All nations have their dirty secrets.
some are worse than others tho, i think everybody will concede to that :D
So now you are outragen half by lies and by "there also have to be more bad shit but i dont know"
Now think about this, if there are no humans, there can be no human experimentation.
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You lost your rationality completly by outrage
It be like claiming someone is guilty without any evidence. We know there is probably worse, for all nations to be honest. Nations and their dirty secrets. But I am United States Citizens, I believe innocent until proven guilty. I can be only mad about things that has evidence.
fair fair
Since things are hidden behind national secrets, it is hard to find evidence of anything.
This is something I apply to all nations.
Like little experimet of dropping two nukes?
imo, we need to end the human race so there can be no genocides ever again.
Oh yeah.... that was hidden from public for a long time.
Still, do you think the majority of Nazi's knew and were ok with human experimentation or the death toll?
I am not saying the citizens, they were ignorant.
The miltiary.
The government.
regular military conscripts probably didn't know either
The citizens voted for Nazi because Nazi was more appealing than the alternstives from what they understood
So is there documents of those experiments?
Or is it just story?
Actually Nazi's came into power through voter supresson, black mail, and threats.
Kinda like what the left is doing right now.
Also there were lies, smears, and false allegations.
Right nobody ever voted for a nationalist government that promises a strong socialist program
hmmmmmm
Revolution through any means necessary. The brown shirts.
Regular Political Affair sounds like lol
lots of lies and smears from the left lately
I am so baffled how the left doesn't see they are turning into a mirror image of what they hate.
why tim still identify with these dumbos
The parallels is there.
Republicans lie too, anyone criticises Israel is an Anti Semite, they pass Anti BDS laws
Like strong parallels.
Blind hatred has a funny way turning you into what you hate.
They are authoriatitve.
They are calling for excesising people.
They talk about killing all republicans.
Antifa approve of hate for the same reason as anti semmites do.
They threaten violence if they don't get their way.
They are commies. What do you expect
They think are working for a Higher Order
They make smears and lies.
Multiculturalism
Like how... can they not see that.
Race Less Future
Ending Capitalism
How are they so blind to their own hatred.
Liberation from Tradition and Responsibility
They are NPCs
oh, I didnt know they rebooted magnum PI
already on 3rd episode
Over the past 10 years, I payed attention to the direction of the left.
I have said things will get worse and worse.
npcs
They mowed down the roadblocks.
obviously hes not white in the reboot.. but thats to be expected... i just hope they havent emasculated him
Hell the left is responsible for a lot of roadblocks against tyranny being tore down.
The checks and balances in our nation.
Things get worse and worse because good men and women do nothing
They want to do away with the electoral vote now.
we don't organize like the Left does
Brain washed masses...
they've brought big corporations to their knees through activism and media pressure
They are storming headlong into authoritarian.
we've always been on the backfoot, never on the attack
we lost the culture war
The right needed someone like Trump.
oh higgins is a woman... ok.. fair enough...whatever....
He lit a fire under their ass.
I am independent.
What is Trump gonna do?
I vote for what I feel is right for our nation.
The Left has been so successful at not "normalizing Trump" in the mainstream
and shes not even english.... my patience has fckin limits! ๐
The Business democrats do got good ideas, the republicans have good ideas. The conservatives have good ideas.
the only memory that will be left of him after he leaves office is that of a Racist Nazi Sympathizer or something
And the left used to have good ideas, but they went nuts, so I don't vote for anything from them now.
I pick and choose what I think follows the constitution the closest.
I think voting is like 15-20% of the Politics at Max
You can change the entire society while being outside the office
I don't vote along party lines, but the republicans are better for United States at the moment.
When you have the Democrats and left combining...
They want open borders, they want to destroy our immigration system, they want to tear down existing barriers against tyranny, they advocate censorship, and they have become the party of guilty until proven innocent. Yeah there is no way I am voting for them for a while.
Mark you should be the Benevolent King of the United States that it never had
The NPC meme?
I only started hearing about it a few days ago.
But... I think I discussed this a long time ago with someone. The concept that theres people who follow directive, and those who are independent.
then again, its... kinda easy for the SJWs to turn around and say that its the other side thats the NPC
Unprovable.
It's mostly just a meme
Its kinda fitting though
No matter how you argue, they will always fall back onto a list of reused arguments and falsehoods
Or what ever you say will always return to the same conclusion
Like a dialog wheel in ME3
That's actually very true
Atleast characters can change their minds in Mass Effect 3
But most dialogs have a few choices that still branch back to the main line
Like "Hey who are you"
That's probably an issue with the budget
A) My name is Ginga
B) Name's Ginga
C) "remain silent..."
D) whats it to you?
Can't record fifty sound bytes for each npc
And regardless of what you say, the dialog will continue normally
Would end up costing them a shit ton of money
Im not complaining bout game dialogs
Oh I know
Im pointing out that its why the NPC meme is fitting
Since no matter the choices you ahve
It will never change the NPC
Beyond what they programmed themselves to say
What you mean SJWs can turn around thats the other side.
The other side is not the one that is listening MSM and repeating same shit.
heres the thing
The rightwingers i know
either dont say shit
Or are willing to discuss other ideas if they wanted
It's true. When I talk to a right winger, they try and convince me. When I talk to a leftist, they resort to insults and slander
Thats funny, something totally unrelated tho
watching this whole thing about ubisoft
Russian bots vs NPCs: civil war
lol
But its just a meme anyway. But its nice to know that it has some truth
Its funny how they refer to riot games
Now i'd pay for that movie
russian bots have a broader emotional spectrum
The company that literally made me politically engaged
peak
Heh Vito is great. Loved his pepsi thing.
And well I dont think ive seen many people offended yet
About the NPC meme
im offended
give it time
@GingaBomber Guardian has an article about the npc meme dehumanizing sjws
Or was it kotaku
And its just one article
i like the line of reasoning, peak wokeness turns you into an npc
Yes tim talked bout it I know the article
But its just one article so far
ofc they did
Its nothing like the SPLC saying Pepe is nazi
Maybe it's not as easy to fuck up like pepe
It's just a badly drawn grey guy
its not like they got anything better to do
maybe they know what they are
With pepe, there was a whole religion
Ironic, but still
I wonder what happened with the whole kekistan thing
That was a good meme
Its... still around
I guess it will actually really become relevant in the next British census
they have boxed pepe and kekistan, gets you banned from things now
Theres one thing really
"How are you offended by a cartoon frog"
thats not the problem
Why are people offended by things in general?
the problem is that their own minds offend them
There are things that should offend.
since all of this is a construction in their own heads
But when I say offensive I mean, yellign "imma kill you with this bottle right now"
And it should trigger a physical response
doesnt it then?
@GingaBomber i wouldn't call response to that getting offended :^)
Doesnt it trigger a physical response to active the hands to go on twitter to complain about something you just imagined in your head about something that its not?
I mean an offense is an attack right?
Im mounting an offensive
did i type that right? im getitng tired lol
I got it
But its a mess
i always considered offense as an attack on ones sensibilities, not an actual assault or threat of violence
if you are offended by something there is a good chance you might need to lighten up
Or a stat in grim dawn
i forgot about that game
never got around to playing it
Wierdest accuracy stat
Its fun
I got more than a 100 hours
And a few buddies with 4 digits
Fuck me 270hrs
what does it play like?
Its closer to diablo 2 than PoE
Kinda slower paced. Im talking having 6 skills with longer cooldowns
oof <:GWfroggyBlobSweat:398569211242479627>
With some spammables like cadence for the soldier class or replicant for the arcanist
But theres also builds with "default attack" skills
big fan of diablo 2
I like GD when Im not in the mood for PoE
PoE is too fast paced sometimes
PoE seems like id need to sink in a lot of time just to learn the fucker
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