I mean, is she conservative? or does she...

ah

So she just kinda plays it cool.

She's not really 'conservative' but our family definitely is

but most of our friends lean left

I think we need a Texas Classical Liberal server here in a moment...

Tim Pool's discord will be ill suited to contain us. 😛

Why contain it? Let it spill out into the streets

I mean, as usual I sit slightly left

but that's far right to the crazies

But the Political Elite left is just THAT FAR GONE.

Right?

I've never fully identified with the Republican party

but I've never identified at all with the Democrat party.

That is the normal state of affairs for those who vote R

I don't know if it's the political elite so much as the politically active, and the elite will do whatever they need to placate them, because the politically active are good at convincing people that they are the majority

its about damed time for a real honest to goodness 3rd option

Our Republican Party chair in my county is actually a libertarian. 😄

I haven't voted, but I may this year just to try to see if holding a majority brings actual 'change'

Now I'd say the media elite, and academic elite is that way for sure.

It reminds me that, the best hope we've got is to overtake the party.

I can confirm that the older generation Republicans absolutely LOVE seeing a younger liberty-minded patriotic individual in their ranks.

ya they love seeing it, but they wont listen to that person

which is part of the problem

and its why the DSA has soooo many recruits

Yeah, without something big happening it seems more likely that the republican party will change to fit the center than that the democrats will. But I suppose that's just the nature of proggressive vs conservative politics. As progress is made and those changes enshrined they become things people want to conserve.

poor styx has to sit right next to richard spencer

which is insane

lol

well... they did interact one time..

just that one time in the 80s and they did not like it

they were both on warskis stream

along with sargon

just curious here, so for a lot of you peoples Tim is about as left leaning as you can stand to go, am i close to the mark there? (not trying to talk trash by any means, just trying to see whats up)

I just think... if our County Republican Party Chair can be an avid Sargon of Akkad fan... There's hope.

sargon is one of those free thinkers everyone needs to hear at least once.

Stand to go? I'm cool being friends with someone who's extremely far left as long as they aren't authoritarian about it, and don't think ill of me for disagreeing.

technically gerald batton did an interview on sargons channel... he should be on the list

Oh yeah. Why the hell do you think the media does such a hard job of vilifying them.

They don't talk about Spencer anymore. He's just a boogieman they namedrop.

They'll vilify Sargon and Peterson.

they already did to peterson i thought

They have to continue to vilify them

ya true

if they relent even for a second someone might hear him

They don't continue to vilify Richard Spencer

they just use him as a comparison

and he has links with farage... who has been on panals with theresa may and ... and he was talking at a trump rallly ... who has connections with hillary clinton!

because Richard Spencer's ideas are demonstrably bad.

Because who actually cares about Spencer? He's a nobody. They created what little fame he has.

hilllary clinton should be on that list!

ya Spencer is the yard stick everyone gets raps on the knuckes with

everything else is measured against that

I think Richard Spencer is controlled opposition.

He's just so bad

Oh shit @wacka thats a great idea

I think he's just an absolute moron.

just remove a LOT of these names

put spencer on it

and link it to every DNC member

and put that out there

tell 4chan to promote it

if nothing else we can just laugh as the far far lefts heads explode

The entire state of the term 'Alt-Right'.

I don't think he's controlled, but I do think they know that he is good for them, and he knows how good their actions are for him.

It's current definition refers to people who think Free Speech is bad

while it's lobbed at people who think Free Speech is good.

Yeah, alt-right is such a weasle word now. They can say it means white seperatist(which it does) and then call someone it, and say "oh I just meant he's right wing, but not your typical right winger lol"

Freedom of Speech is a damn good benchmark.

ya because their arguement of free speech is hate speech is a lot catchier than anything anyone else has... most of them dont even realize what they are chanting for

I've said it before, I'll say it again, my core principle is: Don't support policy that you wouldn't accept to be used against you.

seriously almost lost my mind the first time i heard that chant

agreed @RyeNorth

if they can beat you with your own policy, they will, so rethink that policy

Mmhmm

im really worried about that list of youtubers

the problem is none of these kids running around screaming this shit have ever seen anything real happen in their lives

that looks like they are about to start censoring everybody

I dislike Islam.

I'll speak against it.

i think the possibility is there nio

tim is on the list

well, they have 48 days left

@Timcast https://datasociety.net/output/alternative-influence/

ya im still taking bets on if tim will do a video about that article today

@ClingingMars next time post this one here

the youtube one

But I'm not going to support anyone saying we should specifically punish Islam.

at least for this cycle. though these people are likely planning for the long war.

My bad

@TylerC Tim tweeted about it so it's pretty safe to say he'll make a video.

We should specifically punish the traits of Islam that we don't accept in society, period, by any standard.

Honor Killings? Punish the shit out of them.

This got picked up in the mefia

@Atkins ahh gotcha, i skipp twitter so its always lost on me

It's gonna be dumped on by those listed at least

I know Dr Layman is gonna work on a video

Human Trafficking? Punish the shit out of it.

You're not going to tame Islam with a soft touch.

ya just look at the route china is taking currently

They're taking the wrong stance.

I don't support it.

its pretty shocking they decided to go full on reducation camps

ya me either

They're targeting Islam as a religion, not targeting the results.

Genital mutilation, acid attacks on women, child brides, sharia courts, mandatory Islamic dress, gender separation in public establishments, none of this shit should be given a pass.

its literally torture

Mandatory Islamic dress is fine.

No it isn't.

Sharia courts aren't.

Not if the woman doesn't want to wear it.

If the woman doesn't want to wear it in a western society

but you will be hard pressed to find a lot of islamic women that will say they dont want to wear it

They should be free - and protected - to leave the religion.

If a Muslim woman wakes up one days and says "i don't want to wear this bag anymore" she shouldn't have to.

and the ones in the west that dont want to, dont wear it

I absolutely agree, Atkins, but that's a western standard.

Enforce it in Western society.

It's not the Islamic dress that's the problem, it's the mandatory part.

We can't change Islamic society, though.

https://twitter.com/nickmon1112/status/1042114029102227456

cant see count dank in the list

But hell, in some neighborhoods in the UK even non-Muslim women are being forced to wear it.

she planned this

ok so @Atkins do you disapprove of the amish?

No.

Push back on that.

they have required garb though?

Just learned about that Guardian article. Fucking Coach Red Pill is on there?? His content is alright but dude's a nobody

My point, Tyler.

Never had an amish person kill one of their own for them leaving the faith though.

Punish the shit out of honor killings

ok, i can see what you mean there @Atkins

If you want to call anything a hate crime, an Honor Killing is absolutely a hate crime

Call it what it is.

You wake up one day and say to yourself "I've raised my last god damned barn. I'm out", and you're out. They wish you well and pray for you.

i see where you are coming from

They shun you.

Is there an online archive of old tweets?

The amish will shun you and banish you from their lives

but they wont kill you

^ ^ ^

agreed

I'm not saying you have to punish Islam.

But you have to, in a sense, beat the idea of Honor Killings out of them.

we should, Islam should be banned 😛

also candice owens is on there... but not kanye

That's exactly what I'm saying we shouldn't do, Wol.

We should not set a precedent at any point that a religious point of view should be banned.

I value my right to Atheism too much.

islam is the hardest thing to reconcile with todays world, but in the end i have to agree with @RyeNorth

fascism is banned, Islam should be too

once you go down that slippery slope

its just a snowball effect

Fascism exists anywhere it's 'banned'.

Theres a difference between spirituality, and a random book that says "its okay to kill people who dont agree with you cuz of a sky-man"

Just because it's taboo, socially or legally, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

It just means you don't see it.

And that's when it's scariest.

the EU banned fascism

That's soooooo damned ironic.

its a crime to identify as a fascist here

``To identify as``

so the fascists found something else to identify as

Haters gonna hate.

What if I identify as fascgender

Fascists gonna fash

lol

you know... they call them fingers but ive never seen them fing

oh, there they go.

You've heard of hitler, but have you seen him hitl?

LOL

lil hitler

I think you're just Stalin for time with this line of conversation.

I did nazi that coming

did jew?

Man, someone really needs to stop these nazi guys. The death toll of the holocaust keeps climbing!

Such poor spelling. Did you get bad Marx in English?

man, just when i thought yall were out of puns

Maybe if despots would get better names that you can't make fun of...

thats a good point, need to make sure the next dictator has a name no one can make fun of

now thats just stirring the Pol Pot

I mean, a Trebouchet throws you out of a sling. A Pinochet throws you out of a helicopter.

agreed, the next dictator should be called "Nigger Muslim"

then you can't make fun of it

OOO we can get helicopter rides?

those are fun

i keep hearing there is a necktie i have to wear? anyone know about that?

nobody noose about that.

Helicopters are kinda expensive to fuel up compared to bullets. I don't quite get the appeal.

Because you're not sure when you get off lol

I've got the best emoji collection right now...

lot easier to show everyone all at once you mean business from a few hundred feet up in the air

You could get off when everyone else does

Or maybe you'll have an early stop

remember guys, Gulags are a good thing 😉

thats the russian soup thing right?

with tomatoes?

😃

nah just good friendly penal colonies for the real criminals

they only punish for up to 10 years

the joke being, 10 years is there just for giggles, cuz people dont survive that long in there 😉

ah, i had heard that more than once and i hadnt put 2 and 2 together on that one

Yeah, I do think that's funny that the guy talking about how they 'did away with death sentences and only have a 10 year maximum sentence' didn't talk about the fact that people died in gulag.

Another thing to remember is that they *only* use the death penalty in Soviet Russia for the *worst* crimes, like being a kulak.

Also, you're thinking of goulash

You don't get Goulash in Gulag.

ya that was my point

my bad attempt at a pun

very very bad

shame.

shaaaaaaame.

sorry, i will stop trying to be funny

What pun

what in the hell is a kulak @Atkins

i probably will wish i hadnt asked

So Tim's alt-right again?

I'm not surprised you don't know what a kulak is.

It's a criminal fault in the education system.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kulak

so like, teaching something other than what the commies say you can teach? that sort of thing?

basically the white farmers in SA now, are the modern Kulaks

I'd say that's more the fault of massacre.

Can you genocide a race that doesn't exist?

yes

I mean, yeah. But you won't hear the race that got properly genocided complaining about it...

I dunno, muslims are pretty loud about them being oppressed, and they're not even a race

```In the face of starvation, some families divided, parents turning against children, and children against one another. As the state police, the OGPU, found itself obliged to record, in Soviet Ukraine "families kill their weakest members, usually children, and use the meat for eating." Countless parents killed and ate their children and then died of starvation later anyway. One mother cooked her son for herself and her daughter. One six-year-old girl, saved by other relatives, last saw her father when he was sharpening a knife to slaughter her. Other combinations were, of course, possible. One family killed their daughter-in-law, fed her head to the pigs, and roasted the rest of her body.```

```Survival was a moral as well as a physical struggle. A woman doctor wrote to a friend in June 1933 that she had not yet become a cannibal, but was "not sure that I shall not be one by the time my letter reaches you." The good people died first. Those who refused to steal or to prostitute themselves died. Those who gave food to others died. Those who refused to eat corpses died. Those who refused to kill their fellow man died. Parents who resisted cannibalism died before their children did. Ukraine in 1933 was full of orphans, and sometimes people took them in. Yet without food there was little that even the kindest of strangers could do for such children. The boys and girls lay about on sheets and blankets, eating their own excrement, waiting for death.```

If there are only two states in your opinion: Oppressor or Oppressed,

Yes, you're going to be oppressed.

```In one village in the Kharkiv region, several women did their best to look after children. As one of them recalled, they formed "something like an orphanage." Their wards were in a pitiful condition: "The children had bulging stomachs; they were covered in wounds, in scabs; their bodies were bursting. We took them outside, we put them on sheets, and they moaned. One day the children suddenly fell silent, we turned around to see what was happening, and they were eating the smallest child, little Petrus. They were tearing strips from him and eating them. And Petrus was doing the same, he was tearing strips from himself and eating them, he ate as much as he could. The other children put their lips to his wounds and drank his blood. We took the child away from the hungry mouths and we cried."```

horrible :S

thaaat story makes me glad im american, no offense @Atkins

Excerpts from <https://www.amazon.com/Bloodlands-Europe-Between-Hitler-Stalin/dp/0465031471>

well your Leftists want to make America get that too

What Wol Said.

so don't concede that SCOTUS nomination, for it is a step to getting that into the US

It's not enough to assume 'this is America, it won't happen here'.

ya and i dont agree with those that believe in the communisim

It could. Easily.

Venezuela will probably start having such incidents soon, if it hasn't already

Keep in mind that Ukraine's national flag is symbolic of an endless wheat field.

They've already learned to cook zoo animals...

ya i cant stand seeing the communist flag walked around my streets

at all

If you look at satellite imagery of Ukraine you see just that. The most bountiful land of the Soviet Union reduced to that state.

Time new vid on the #me2 movement lel

Do you speak out against it? Or bite your tongue, Tyler?

when i see it in my face i do speak out against it

how do you guys pronounce rose mcgowan?