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2018-08-08 17:34:37 UTC

I just said it.

2018-08-08 17:34:41 UTC

wrote it.

2018-08-08 17:35:16 UTC

an antagonistic discussion between 2 sides?

2018-08-08 17:35:31 UTC

A competition between two sides.

2018-08-08 17:35:43 UTC

It's the act of convincing a third party.

2018-08-08 17:35:49 UTC

What?

2018-08-08 17:36:20 UTC

So I don't have to believe what I'm debating I just have to convince an audience that I'm right.

2018-08-08 17:36:22 UTC

feel like im in an ancap server again

2018-08-08 17:36:48 UTC

Have you ever done debate?

2018-08-08 17:36:54 UTC

Like the debate team?

2018-08-08 17:37:03 UTC

i have done debates yes

2018-08-08 17:37:16 UTC

but not all things i would call debates meet your criteria

2018-08-08 17:37:18 UTC

some did

2018-08-08 17:37:25 UTC

What?

2018-08-08 17:37:35 UTC

So you didn't do debate team.

2018-08-08 17:37:38 UTC

you had debates?

2018-08-08 17:37:55 UTC

words have multiple meanings. Do you not understand context?

2018-08-08 17:37:55 UTC

no, but if being on debate team is the only way to have a debate, then i guess i've never been in one

2018-08-08 17:38:36 UTC

but i've been in plenty of open debates, with an audience, in public chats

2018-08-08 17:38:56 UTC

with 2 researched sides

2018-08-08 17:39:35 UTC

I don't really know what you're trying to get at here we're agreeing now.

2018-08-08 17:39:49 UTC

Lads

2018-08-08 17:39:57 UTC

You seen this ?

2018-08-08 17:40:14 UTC

omg

2018-08-08 17:40:44 UTC

@zutt i saw it , was too long so i didnt read it

2018-08-08 17:41:00 UTC

its kotaku

2018-08-08 17:41:13 UTC

well just from the text there it appears there was someone named lacy that was a sexist.

2018-08-08 17:41:35 UTC

yes and no

2018-08-08 17:41:36 UTC

Thats why i asked a question yesterday about the dudes that founded riot why should they choose to hire women in positions of leadership

2018-08-08 17:41:59 UTC

Its thier company not the governments

2018-08-08 17:42:38 UTC

her intent was sexist, but so would passing someone up who met qualifications just because they were female.

2018-08-08 17:42:57 UTC

what happened: someone didn't like the work place environment, so they left, and are screaming sexism

2018-08-08 17:43:09 UTC

to gain moral high-ground

2018-08-08 17:43:21 UTC

I wouldnt put a women in a leadership position just because she was a women sheโ€™d have to have the qualifications in order for me to have her in that position

2018-08-08 17:43:29 UTC

rather than start a competing business, and try to steal all their works and their market share.

2018-08-08 17:43:40 UTC

This ^

2018-08-08 17:43:54 UTC

You dont like it , then go start your own business

2018-08-08 17:44:01 UTC

well you would fail to meet proper "diversity" standards.

2018-08-08 17:44:22 UTC

Diversity is code for racism against whites

2018-08-08 17:44:27 UTC

Its bullshit

2018-08-08 17:44:34 UTC

"She said her direct manager would ask her if it was hard working at Riot being so cute. Sometimes, she said, heโ€™d imply that her position was a direct result of her appearance."

^ this would be a legit reason to claim sexism but then again also make you question your actual ability.

2018-08-08 17:44:42 UTC

and men and any other identity you want it to be.

2018-08-08 17:44:46 UTC

also, would fit the definition of diversity hire

2018-08-08 17:44:51 UTC

Those sources said that talented women have fallen through Riotโ€™s hiring processes because they werenโ€™t considered โ€œcore gamers,โ€ which one source described as โ€œan excuse.โ€

2018-08-08 17:44:52 UTC

You hire the best candidate not the least common skin color

2018-08-08 17:44:54 UTC

๐Ÿ˜‚

2018-08-08 17:45:26 UTC

@zutt lmao

2018-08-08 17:45:47 UTC

A game company ...lmao not a core gamer who would have thought

2018-08-08 17:45:56 UTC

Doesnt sound sexist to me

2018-08-08 17:46:07 UTC

depends on why they think they are not a gamer

2018-08-08 17:46:17 UTC

That article is kind of all over the place

2018-08-08 17:46:27 UTC

the person could just not play games... or could be they are stuck in the 80's where "women don't play games"

2018-08-08 17:46:31 UTC

โ€œTalented womanโ€

2018-08-08 17:46:46 UTC

or they just suck at gaming!

2018-08-08 17:47:03 UTC

Preferencing Riotโ€™s definition of โ€œcoreโ€ gamers during hiring means drawing in employees from a larger pool of men than women. Avid players of MOBAs (multiplayer online battle arenas, a genre encompassing popular games including League of Legends and Dota 2) and first-person shooter fans are typically men.

2018-08-08 17:47:03 UTC

Talented women wanting to get hired so the can get the #metoo dollars ๐Ÿ’ต

2018-08-08 17:47:14 UTC

Lel

2018-08-08 17:47:16 UTC

this article is filled with 50/50 statements that could be examples of sexism.... but also could just be women just happened to not fit.

2018-08-08 17:47:34 UTC

vaugeness ๐Ÿ˜‰ the best weapon of SJW's arsenal

2018-08-08 17:47:46 UTC

so you can change your debate stance to wherever suits you

2018-08-08 17:47:59 UTC

thought bullshit was their best weapon? or are they the same thing?

2018-08-08 17:48:03 UTC

Im for women getting hired but playing the โ€œlet me blame something other than me โ€œ why i cant move up

2018-08-08 17:49:32 UTC

Id fucking hire an attractive women over a man with the same qualifications for a marketing job because dat bitch could market shit which = ๐Ÿ’ฐ

2018-08-08 17:49:39 UTC

Lmao

2018-08-08 17:49:42 UTC

Another woman, who was interviewing for a position far removed from games or game development, said she felt like she wasnโ€™t being taken seriously because, instead of playing League of Legends, she casually played World of Warcraft.

2018-08-08 17:49:46 UTC

๐Ÿ‘Œ

2018-08-08 17:49:56 UTC

....

2018-08-08 17:50:06 UTC

@zutt she was a filthy casual

2018-08-08 17:50:11 UTC

Disgusting

2018-08-08 17:50:14 UTC

like "She said her direct manager would ask her if it was hard working at Riot being so cute" that is a legit potential HR incident that i wouldn't care about because i would think that guy is an asshole. even if it was me being told something similar by a female manager i would be like "excuse me? what bs is that?"

"After an idea she really believed in fell flat during a meeting, she asked a male colleague to present the same idea to the same group of people days later. He was skeptical, but she insisted that he give it a shot. โ€œLo and behold, the week after that, [he] went in, presented exactly as I did and the whole room was like, โ€˜Oh my gosh, this is amazing.โ€™ "

that would be a legit reason to question things... unless that "colleague" was slightly hire up the food chain then its bs again

2018-08-08 17:50:39 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463054787336732683/476809484438601728/image.jpg

2018-08-08 17:50:49 UTC

probably an accurate picture of her

2018-08-08 17:50:51 UTC

beard and all

2018-08-08 17:51:07 UTC

atleast they're not console peasants

2018-08-08 17:51:08 UTC

The woman who was asked about her World of Warcraft gear said she felt like an intervieweeโ€™s record wasnโ€™t as valued as their ability to fit into Riotโ€™s culture. Even outside of the apparent emphasis on being a โ€œcore gamer,โ€ she questioned what interviewers meant when they talked about โ€œculture fit.โ€

2018-08-08 17:51:15 UTC

Kek

2018-08-08 17:51:31 UTC

I never knew riot was this much based

2018-08-08 17:51:47 UTC

Have more respect for them now

2018-08-08 17:52:18 UTC

they're a riot

2018-08-08 17:52:24 UTC

booo

2018-08-08 17:52:27 UTC

off the stage

2018-08-08 17:53:18 UTC

the solution here is: tell people to not work at riot, find a better game studio, or make your own

2018-08-08 17:53:26 UTC

Knock Knock,

Who's there?

Fak,

Fak who?

Fakkaf you filthy casual!

2018-08-08 17:53:41 UTC

its that simple

2018-08-08 17:53:49 UTC

tbh, most game dev places SUCK to work at

2018-08-08 17:53:51 UTC

As a self identifying Windup duck, I've oftened wondered why people don't just randomly give me money when they are passing near me. Now, I must assume they are WindupDuckAphobic.

2018-08-08 17:54:00 UTC

not even valve, apparently, is that great either

2018-08-08 17:54:05 UTC

if recent news is to be believed

2018-08-08 17:54:22 UTC

tbh, I feel like most stories are exaggerated,

The average person is not that smart ๐Ÿ˜›

2018-08-08 17:55:06 UTC

actually so true it's painful.

2018-08-08 17:55:15 UTC

what she probably experienced was more nepotism that anything

2018-08-08 17:55:21 UTC

yes

2018-08-08 17:55:32 UTC

which is like "welcome to the real world"

2018-08-08 17:56:07 UTC

my perception of "Professionalism" got ruined during my internship,

Where i could get away working for about 1-2 hours per day, still met demand

And could convince my direct superiors I was working long hours cuz they didn't understand code

2018-08-08 17:56:36 UTC

that

2018-08-08 17:56:54 UTC

and that most companies seem to have a vague feel of "one thing fucks up, its all over"

2018-08-08 17:57:05 UTC

ye

2018-08-08 17:57:09 UTC

but as for Nepotism

2018-08-08 17:57:16 UTC

"Friends helping out friends"

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