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2018-09-12 10:26:14 UTC

The indie scene will save art and the freedom of information

2018-09-12 10:26:46 UTC

If Articles 11 and 13 go through the indie scene is gonna explode because word-of-mouth, chatrooms and local communities are gonna be how you hear about stuff

2018-09-12 10:27:02 UTC

when will people realize, that if you give attention to things you hate, you bring attention to it, and then people who dislike you will support it just out of spite for you, and then other people will see it

2018-09-12 10:27:40 UTC

its best to ignore it in the hopes no one else likes it and it fades from view

2018-09-12 10:28:11 UTC

i remember when catcher in the rye was considered banned

2018-09-12 10:28:28 UTC

kids would go out of their way to find it just because it was banned

2018-09-12 10:28:35 UTC

The other thing is that censorship works only if people are willing to take part in it. As you said- back then people were not willing to do that so all atemps failed

2018-09-12 10:28:39 UTC

and its a boring af book.

2018-09-12 10:30:07 UTC

So yeah

2018-09-12 10:30:18 UTC

It's like

2018-09-12 10:30:28 UTC

Suppression just makes the communities you're trying to eradicate closer

2018-09-12 10:30:44 UTC

Underground music is gonna absolutely blow up, which I'm excited for as an up-and-coming rock vocalist lmao

2018-09-12 10:31:09 UTC

rock became mainstream and sort of died off.

2018-09-12 10:31:26 UTC

need to bring back the old parents calling it satans music, make it cool again

2018-09-12 10:31:38 UTC

oh wait, we have SJWs to call it bigot's music

2018-09-12 10:32:15 UTC

My whole schtick with rock is like, it's lost its spirit nowadays

2018-09-12 10:32:26 UTC

Most people who play rock that I've met in the Birmingham scene at least are all like

2018-09-12 10:32:38 UTC

"I wanna be famous", "I want people to notice me"

2018-09-12 10:32:56 UTC

Rock was about authenticity, being free to be who you are, embracing that outside of the mainstream

2018-09-12 10:33:06 UTC

Purposeful counterculture to prove a point

2018-09-12 10:33:19 UTC

It was intellectual, in some ways poetically and in some ways scholarly

2018-09-12 10:33:38 UTC

It's all stoners and cokeheads, no substance

2018-09-12 10:33:49 UTC

They like the scene and image but don't understand what it truly is

2018-09-12 10:34:09 UTC

And do what you like, be free, that's the point of rock, but... be authentic

2018-09-12 10:34:14 UTC

Stop being fake, stop focusing on the money

2018-09-12 10:34:17 UTC

That's why rock died

2018-09-12 10:34:22 UTC

Grunge made everyone too sad to care

2018-09-12 10:34:27 UTC

Then everyone got stoned or OD'd

2018-09-12 10:35:37 UTC

Now in my generation of rock, you have idiot anarchists, emos who aren't saying anything, or drugged-up posers. No inbetween, no exception, except POSSIBLY Greta Van Fleet who are actually very talented, and indie rockers who get ignored

2018-09-12 10:36:45 UTC

And that's what I wanna do. Grab the world by the balls and tell em straight, "Fuck you, I reject what you're forcing me to be and do and say". These sons of bitches can play rock til the day they die but they'll never be rockstars, yknow?

2018-09-12 10:36:57 UTC

I don't wanna play rock, I wanna be a rockstar. And that's what a rockstar was

2018-09-12 10:37:14 UTC

Someone who was told their place and said "No"

2018-09-12 10:37:51 UTC

/rant

2018-09-12 10:38:16 UTC

TLDR Rockers stopped standing for freedom and started being illogical ideologues, apathetic wasters or sellout bitches. Not me

2018-09-12 10:41:01 UTC

you know what is funny? i used to listen to a punk band that used to talk about people in real need, like farmers fucked over by corporate farms and the subsidies the government gives them, or poor people having trouble finding work.

2018-09-12 10:41:32 UTC

used to cover everyone in the shit (Although they still had a pretty activist vibe)

2018-09-12 10:42:18 UTC

but in the recent years and with trump elected, they joined the more fuck trump side and i'm just like "you are saying fuck you to the people you used to claim you wanted to help, wtf?"

2018-09-12 10:42:49 UTC

They're sellout lefty crybabies with no principles, from the sounds of things

2018-09-12 10:42:55 UTC

I don't agree with a lot of what Trump does

2018-09-12 10:43:06 UTC

I think his denial of climate change is very startling

2018-09-12 10:43:11 UTC

Or at least, his cabinet's

2018-09-12 10:43:18 UTC

well a member or two were members of PETA so... lmao

2018-09-12 10:43:23 UTC

But he did amazing for industry like he promised

2018-09-12 10:43:23 UTC

LOL

2018-09-12 10:43:27 UTC

Peta are fucking horrendous

2018-09-12 10:43:30 UTC

they are

2018-09-12 10:44:07 UTC

"we are for animals!"
>owns the largest number of kill shelters
"FREE THE ANIMALS"
>cause mass death of the freed animals or an ecological disaster

2018-09-12 10:44:09 UTC

Those feels when you save animals by killing them so they can't die

2018-09-12 10:46:21 UTC

to be fair, I don't blame some of these people because they would hear all this BS from Alarmist who would take the actual studies which would say like "in 100 years, this will happen" and then turn around an say "IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS WE ARE ALL GONNA DIE!"

2018-09-12 10:50:45 UTC

Punk is a bunch of sissies nowadays, for the most part

2018-09-12 10:50:58 UTC

Angry confused teenagers complaining about what they *think* is happening

2018-09-12 10:51:46 UTC

to be fair, that has been most of punk for a long time, there is just less of the bands where what they think is happening and what is happening lined up

2018-09-12 10:52:30 UTC

I'm gonna break the mold, be it core punk or a punk message through metal

2018-09-12 10:52:55 UTC

If I sound overly ambitious, well, I gotta be, it's music

2018-09-12 10:53:09 UTC

I wanna be the right-wing, educated equivalent of Rage Against The Machine

2018-09-12 10:53:11 UTC

find a swede to produce your music

2018-09-12 10:53:24 UTC

I need a band who aren't SJWs or shitheads first

2018-09-12 10:53:34 UTC

i'm sure there will be plenty jumping ship soon

2018-09-12 10:56:29 UTC

Hell, I just need a guitarist, bassist and drummer who can do what they're told

2018-09-12 10:56:36 UTC

As diva as that sounds

2018-09-12 10:56:59 UTC

Leftist musicians are quite undisciplined unless they're SJW or genuinely passionate over music, I've found, at least at my age

2018-09-12 10:57:20 UTC

My last band I was with for a year and you know what we learned over the space of a year?

2018-09-12 10:57:31 UTC

Half of Nothing Else Matters by Metallica

2018-09-12 10:57:43 UTC

And then an Iron Maiden song outside of my range

2018-09-12 10:57:47 UTC

So I couldn't sing it

2018-09-12 10:57:56 UTC

Over a *year*

2018-09-12 10:58:27 UTC

RIP

2018-09-12 10:59:27 UTC

I mean I'm excited for all the punk music I can write about this but I am heartbroken and astonished

2018-09-12 10:59:57 UTC

Thanks for keeping us informed @Atkins

2018-09-12 11:00:03 UTC

Fuck, brb, need ti check how exactly one apply for a visa...

2018-09-12 11:00:46 UTC

At least this gives people a good reason to support hard brexit.

2018-09-12 11:00:49 UTC

It's like this every single time with europe and canada.

2018-09-12 11:01:01 UTC

Everyone acknowledges it's a disaster. It passes.

2018-09-12 11:01:05 UTC

Fucking boomers, every fucking time.

2018-09-12 11:01:06 UTC

I was gonna marry my girlfriend in a few years once we had enough money and we'd finished our degrees, but I genuinely might marry her next year while she's on holiday here and flee to the USA

2018-09-12 11:01:31 UTC

will they be affected in time to get a hard brexit

2018-09-12 11:01:46 UTC

Voss is a rat

2018-09-12 11:02:42 UTC

be sure to avoid ICE, we will try and deport you

2018-09-12 11:02:44 UTC

The best you can hope for now, is for a big posterchild of justice to come out of this sooner rather than later.

2018-09-12 11:02:57 UTC

I'm Irish with a British passport, ICE won't look twice at me

2018-09-12 11:03:02 UTC

Another Count Dankula that the media can only lie about, while average citizens see the truth.

2018-09-12 11:03:13 UTC

naw, you don't understand, the left won't protect you then

2018-09-12 11:04:34 UTC

I need freedom god damn it

2018-09-12 11:04:36 UTC

Babel is so cool as a thing.

2018-09-12 11:04:41 UTC

It's a shame religion has made it... lame.

2018-09-12 11:04:43 UTC

Don't worry I won't come to the USA until I can actually contribute to the country

2018-09-12 11:04:55 UTC

I will not be a leech on a country I admire

2018-09-12 11:05:15 UTC

Sad part is that most european citizen doesnt give a fuck about EU parliament

2018-09-12 11:05:36 UTC

As well as laws that is being pushed thru it

2018-09-12 11:06:03 UTC

"we just wanted to play games, but you fucked with us and now we are here"

2018-09-12 11:07:06 UTC

Hey so what do you guys think will happen? Will international online companies comply or pull out?

2018-09-12 11:11:32 UTC

Facebook will comply, and perhaps Google. I don't think smaller companies are going to be able to.

2018-09-12 11:12:14 UTC

This legislation seems to have been created with the capabilities of the biggest firms in mind, and the idea of bullying smaller firms into surrendering control over content to the biggest firms.

2018-09-12 11:13:01 UTC

If you run a phpBB forum, you can't possibly identify AND remove copyrighted material within one hour.

2018-09-12 11:13:43 UTC

if you have a closed forum it cant be reported

2018-09-12 11:13:48 UTC

So they'll have to get some sort of plugin that outsources the burden of identifying copyrighted material to some massive firm with a huge AI.

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