Widely accepted isn't how it works.

Hey Zutt, you wanna know what convinced me?

There's this guy who was on Crowder once

And he explained so long

And so... boring

That it had to be true

It was so, so boring..

lol real science right there

I saw that guy, too

Wasn't it boring

Well its like 95% + off all the studies which confirmed it

Boring...as shit

If it's boring, it's accurate.

Crowder is shil lmao

Anything exciting about nature is a lie.

Unless it's about the animals themselves, then it's fear and pain.

He is still hiding under the table after getting destroyed by potholer lel

"A SCORPION'S TAIL CONNECTS TO ITS STOMACH."

"THE TAIL IS JUST ITS INSIDES."

I get that, but these same people that peer-review that kind of science are the same professors like my oceanography teach who told me the course i was taking didnt' go that far back in history to quantify atmospheric changes more than a couple thousand years ago

Thats when I knew the class was bullshit, and when that science was too.

Theme of nature: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ze5BfLk0J8>
Theme of animals: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1pGfinTcUg>

Well i think your problem is you are looking at the problem only from one side

I've heard all the sides.

I know by now that there's a HUUUUUUUGE racket for confirming manmade climate change.

Obviously we dont have complete data of development of climate on earth

Thats why they model the processes

What is the other side? That our 100 years of Ford motor company beats out billions of years of straight up ass sulfur atmosphere?

And "90% of scientists agree" is one of the biggest talking points.

Makes the old almonds activate ey

Yeah, it's like...

Volcanoes erupting really outcompetes the shit out of us.

We're not in the same weight class. o_o

The climate is remarkeably stable now and has been for millions of years. But nothing stays the same. Its just the lefties who tend to house themselves on the coasts that create a fuss cuz they were dumb enough to invest in beachfront property.

Nah

Again

--Ah

I'm convinced.

Sorry, Zutt. We apologize.

Look at the processes

The process of how certain gases influence climate is well documented

And also explained

There is no conspiracy there

An extra harsh summer will create an even harsher winter which will create a la nino, which creates a la nina which if you're getting the cyclical nature of oceanic currents you'll understand weather does the same thing just a few ticks later.

Now you are talking short term weather cycles

While i am talking carbon cycle

Well carbon and methane

Short term influences long term. Think we had el nino's 10k years ago? Ask the polynesians I guess.

Well el nino is pretty well explained and understood no ?

with modern science, yes. in as much as we understand it. which is fallable.

Yep

So it's not competely out of reach to consider other aspects of climate change as fallable or at least needs to be understood more thats what i'm getting at.

I'm not trying to be quick to judge this one especially when it comes to the blame game. Alrready too much of that going around as i'm being blamed for everything cuz im white.

Its very unlikely

The thing about the climate change is that the research fits

Over the years they look at the same process from multiple disciplines and all of them came to same conclusion

At least in general direction

I guess agree to disagree. The only graphs and data that are realiable are measured from pre-industrial 1900 to now, when we could actually gauge through ice samples what the atmo was wayyy longer ago. When talking about ice ages, the earth couldn't go through that and not have some significant changes that would effect the PH of oceans, ice drift/melt and land mass.

We're using insufficient data that is only a tiny blip of time in comparison.

Its bad sample sizing, bad science

You keep looking at it just from one angle

Thats only part of the whole reaearch

yes, mostly cfc levels throughout time which are the supposed offender of all this

Well tbh to untangle this we would have to dive realy deep into this

too late in the night for that

It does not help that its not just one percess but multiple of them lel

Thays what makes it beautifully complicated

https://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/atmospheric_co2_ch4_degrees_centigrade_over_time_by_reg_morrison.jpg?w=720&h=564

I think its hilarious how that was the same image i saw in my textbook, and the little red arrow says---->??? Ohy my, where am i going to go? Its laughable. There are distinct patterns.

Well the graphs are dangerous tbh

Lots of sites manipulates them one way or other

True

All I'm saying is, humans as we live today can't live in anything short of 300 cfcs or we'll start bitching about how many feet more/less of beach we have in miami. But it does change. It will never stay the same. And that top section where we're currently at is thousands of years represented. So way beyond any scientific annotations. We're talking biblical territory.

You mixed multiple issues in this time lel

I remember aljazeera report with female anouncer standing on beach and pointing on the sea

Saying how the say is eating the land on some island im caribean area

And claiming muh climate change

right, because of ice melt. gotcha

While the truth was that the island was on tectonic plate lol

And it was going under in that area

thats just shit luck

Yeah

Pretty much

thats another thing that is working against us, is the earth's surface. again, i just think its funny how humans no matter how smart they are think they can sustain things here and there won't be any change

Well now we are getting to another area

How politicians make policies

And thats fucked up in the extreme

And corupted

True

Like its absolutely true there is huge "eco" industry making money on stupid ideas

So you're saying we need to colonize mars?

moin moin

Eventualy yes

--How exactly is it easier to terraform Mars than to repair Earth?

I'm not too educated on global warming but I'll parrot whatever side gets me some sweet space travel, because with space travel comes mecha

Eventually humans need to leave our planet

There was a huge solar industry in 2008 because of two things. Popular interest, and government subsidies

Mostly the latter

How exactly is repairing earth more rad than terraforming mars? That's all I'm worried about right now

Yep