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2018-08-16 14:17:32 UTC

I doubt the documentaries she makes are gonna have an easy time either lol

2018-08-16 14:17:37 UTC

Why did lauren retire ?

2018-08-16 14:17:42 UTC

I think it would be interesting for a Lauren Southern to start making documentaries because her latest continent were pretty bad

2018-08-16 14:17:48 UTC

already mentioned

2018-08-16 14:17:49 UTC

And she is banned on Patreon and Paypal so she can't get support direct from her viewers.

2018-08-16 14:18:05 UTC

she could hatereon (sp?)

2018-08-16 14:18:17 UTC

I don't thin hatreon exists anymore.

2018-08-16 14:18:25 UTC

๐Ÿค”

2018-08-16 14:18:33 UTC

Well its interesting

2018-08-16 14:18:33 UTC

oh did it get v&?

2018-08-16 14:18:38 UTC

it exists but not working i think

2018-08-16 14:18:56 UTC

I wonder if she can crowdsorce her own documentaries

2018-08-16 14:19:00 UTC

ah site upgrade

2018-08-16 14:19:05 UTC

She could always rely on Super Chat

2018-08-16 14:19:09 UTC

which I imagine has been happening for a while

2018-08-16 14:19:21 UTC

yeah there's always shit like indiegogo/KS/etc

2018-08-16 14:19:39 UTC

The problem is other documentary makers will never take her seriously

2018-08-16 14:19:45 UTC

Because muh racis

2018-08-16 14:19:50 UTC

Is that a problem?

2018-08-16 14:19:57 UTC

@zutt crowdsource how? she's banned from crowdsourcing platforms.

2018-08-16 14:20:11 UTC

I don't think she's been from Indiegogo and kick-start

2018-08-16 14:20:15 UTC

hmmm... i wonder if you can make a case against this big tech firms of breach of contract (saying you violate ToS when you don't, or making the ToS so vague as to be unenforceable) or false advertising (saying you are allowed but you really are not). I wonder if during the course of such a lawsuit you could get access to the source code to search for malicious stuff

2018-08-16 14:20:20 UTC

unless people mail her cash she's pretty much out of luck

2018-08-16 14:20:26 UTC

things that would outright opposing groups of people and the like

2018-08-16 14:20:45 UTC

@Grenade123 sorry to break it for you but the contract also includes that they can kick you off for any reason outside of the TOs

2018-08-16 14:21:08 UTC

not all contracts are considered valid or enforceable

2018-08-16 14:21:12 UTC

That's why it is called a terms of service and not a contract

2018-08-16 14:21:57 UTC

i'm pretty sure there is a case to be made. Particularly since they have been selling your data based on you agreeing to that ToS, and give you nothing in return

2018-08-16 14:22:00 UTC

lauren can make these docs but without constant content she will become irrelevant quickly

2018-08-16 14:22:17 UTC

all these stories about her in Oceania fuel searches for her and views

2018-08-16 14:22:25 UTC

Maybe Lauren can tag along with you on the ground

2018-08-16 14:22:26 UTC

if she leaves youtube her doc will come out with ltitle fanfare

2018-08-16 14:22:30 UTC

<:hyperthink:413793973123940352>

2018-08-16 14:22:55 UTC

That's the point of the unpersoning campaign. Make it impossible for independent creators to create, and eventually they fade from public view.

2018-08-16 14:23:39 UTC

I doubt that Lauren can do much more public speaking either. Imagine the debt her and Molymeme are in after their tour.

2018-08-16 14:23:52 UTC

All those cancellations, refunds, and security fees.

2018-08-16 14:23:55 UTC

i think thats accurate, but i also think everyone goes irrelevant at some point and you cant stop it

2018-08-16 14:24:13 UTC

For too long have the indies leveraged their power against the poor vulnerable media elite through the power of the internet.

2018-08-16 14:24:46 UTC

One thing I'm so confused about is if the school is obligated to give a pot forms because of a public forum isn't pricing the security too unreasonable numbers considered infringing on freedom of speech

2018-08-16 14:24:47 UTC

Lauren has basically retired, and Molymeme had a shot fired across his bow basically telling him to STFU or else.

2018-08-16 14:25:05 UTC

Soon balance will be restored as you are told what you are allowed and want to watch again

2018-08-16 14:25:28 UTC

molyneux is pushing on though, will be interesting to see if they shut him down

2018-08-16 14:25:30 UTC

i think we are going to see opinions become extremely narrow

2018-08-16 14:25:46 UTC

Only the right opinions will be allowed

2018-08-16 14:26:04 UTC

Go off the reservation and ban ๐Ÿ”จ

2018-08-16 14:26:20 UTC

Tim has to self censor himself

2018-08-16 14:26:25 UTC

Antitrust when

2018-08-16 14:26:31 UTC

I...I love my corporate overlords... Th-thank you for allowing me to s-speak my mind on the internet about... how much I agree with you!

2018-08-16 14:26:36 UTC

I guess the gamble is to try to restrict right wing speech in order to win control of congress, because if the left wins control of congress then they won't have to fear regulation of media.

2018-08-16 14:26:37 UTC

I agree tim

2018-08-16 14:26:46 UTC

i think the big question is if the media companies will maintain legitimacy in the public eye or lose it and just be considered retarded

2018-08-16 14:26:53 UTC

I haven't been able to understand Tim's pessimism.

2018-08-16 14:27:05 UTC

I think you may have forgotten the full gamut of how this turns out

2018-08-16 14:27:07 UTC

They only have to fear repercussions if they lose the midterms.

2018-08-16 14:27:18 UTC

And with the current financial institutions going after cryptocurrency

2018-08-16 14:27:27 UTC

It will be bleak and then the Myspaces will crumble.

2018-08-16 14:27:32 UTC

Its not a conspiracy they just dont want to bother with evaluating so they will demonetize or ban almost everything

2018-08-16 14:27:42 UTC

Constant shedding of snakeskins.

2018-08-16 14:28:01 UTC

We don't really have the luxury of waiting for social media giants to collapse and hoping whatever replaces them isn't worse.

2018-08-16 14:28:20 UTC

God I hope so, but they'll have to really fuck up to make more than a small minority decide that creating something new is worth the effort over living in the ruins

2018-08-16 14:28:21 UTC

Minds have some potential

2018-08-16 14:28:22 UTC

... Ya we do.

2018-08-16 14:28:30 UTC

We totally have that luxury of waiting.

2018-08-16 14:28:42 UTC

I dont know about the others

2018-08-16 14:28:46 UTC

they still have a lot of momentum for quite a while because they still have all the juicy content and participants

2018-08-16 14:28:50 UTC

Minds has potential but tim is right its a chain

2018-08-16 14:28:59 UTC

That's like saying arctic waters didn't have the luxury of waiting to spill into the titanic.

2018-08-16 14:29:15 UTC

your negative opinion of youtube means nothing if you still use it because thats where the party is

2018-08-16 14:29:24 UTC

Whats super scary is the 3-d gun censorship that isp was doingh

2018-08-16 14:29:38 UTC

They were banning access to the site

2018-08-16 14:29:42 UTC

Thats fucked up

2018-08-16 14:29:59 UTC

thats news to me. sounds pretty fucked

2018-08-16 14:30:01 UTC

after it was legal again?

2018-08-16 14:30:14 UTC

or when it was deemed illegal for a period

2018-08-16 14:30:30 UTC

T mobile i believe banned it first

2018-08-16 14:30:45 UTC

wonder if they had government breathing down their necks

2018-08-16 14:30:59 UTC

If the left controls all platforms of speech and uses that to gain and retain political power, then they'll be more than happy to keep pumping money into these platforms. If they control congress they can even give them government contracts.

2018-08-16 14:31:43 UTC

No fear of monopolies being busted up, and they can use market power to crush upstarts.

2018-08-16 14:31:49 UTC

They're clearly all colluding.

2018-08-16 14:31:58 UTC

And even payment processors are involved.

2018-08-16 14:32:31 UTC

Every challenger start-up has failed, often due to some payment processor fucking them.

2018-08-16 14:32:32 UTC

Creators have been getting hammered by new changes and shadow changes in banks.

2018-08-16 14:32:51 UTC

Suddenly Visa stops accepting charges from NSFW Patreons

2018-08-16 14:33:05 UTC

Stripe freezes MakerSupport payments.

2018-08-16 14:33:12 UTC

#FreeTheAnimeTiddies

2018-08-16 14:33:17 UTC

Mastercard starts demanding certain creators get banned.

2018-08-16 14:33:17 UTC

Dude wtf i need to find out who blocked the gun site

2018-08-16 14:33:21 UTC

I found Scrib

2018-08-16 14:33:23 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463054787336732683/479658943564611614/unknown.png

2018-08-16 14:33:35 UTC

@RelicArts they can never stop the porn

2018-08-16 14:33:43 UTC

So waiting around for the free market to fix this is bullshit because the market isn't anywhere near free.

2018-08-16 14:33:45 UTC

only 20k student debt?

2018-08-16 14:33:54 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463054787336732683/479659072392790018/unknown.png

2018-08-16 14:33:54 UTC

@LotheronPrime fuck that guy you dont need college to get a job

2018-08-16 14:33:56 UTC

Only accurate part.

2018-08-16 14:34:06 UTC

Fucking freeloder

2018-08-16 14:34:09 UTC

Well, $20k when you have no job makes it look like a mountain

2018-08-16 14:34:12 UTC

I know 20K is like a summer job

2018-08-16 14:34:15 UTC

Companies care more about politics than profit right now and that's ruining the survival of the fittest aspect of free markets.

2018-08-16 14:34:16 UTC

nobody ever wanted the market to be free

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