That you didn't just sit on your ass

it means you were not sitting on your ass doing nothing

"Oh yeah, I worked on my art, *and here's my portfolio*"

Ambition*

As much as I favor brutal honesty when it's directed my way

for art, showing your art means more than a fancy degree

just like programming, shipped product is the only thing that means anything

There IS actually a charm in the corporate world in rephrasing a negative into a positive.

Stop dragging yourself down and cross the rope bridge, fucker

yup

There's also the fact they want a photoshop user. I never use that.

everyone's in the same boat in interviews, etc

so>

its a fucking art program

Plenty of random little things cross me off.

Have you used GIMP?

watch some videos

No I know how photoshop works. i detest it though.

its *the* industry standard, there's plenty of content for help

that is a bit different

Other programs are better, but they won't give a shit.

well that's just being pedantic

no u

You call that pedantic?

You little shit?

NO U

Jesus

what're we on about

NO U

You think they won't give a shit?

Scribb is having a nervous breakdown

If you KNOW HOW to use their program, that's enough.

If you can do better with your own

they care that the work gets done!

If I know anything

they don't care so long as the shit gets done. you could do it 90% in another program, then just port it to photoshop format to send to printing.

It's that "company policy" never bends.

When they give those requirements, it's so that they know they don't have to teach you how to do the job more than the guidelines.

they might just say photoshop because the last guy used it and its all they know

well

never know until you get to the interview

and its the industry standard

A mechanic wouldn't hire me if I didn't know how to at LEAST operate a wrench

M8 I work with artists. They're not going to murder you

"What are those. BLACK JEANS? Yes they're the right color and literally no one until I have complained... but.. They have to be a different material!"

Shitty retail job.

Not the same.

^^^

btw

the higher level job you have

the less people care

about stupid shit

Don't forget there's karaoke every Tuesday.

@Scribblehatch just saying you know photoshop can get you to the interview, from there you say i know it but hate it. you might not get the job, they might say "whatever". you won't know until you get to the interview.

Here's what annoys me more than **anything.**

Hey thanks to my hobbies, I can add 10 months of Unity/Blender experience to my resume if necessary.

*grabs popcorn*

This application has the nerve to ask for every one of those qualities, but doesn't even disclose how much it will be paying.

they might give you an offer anyone but say you still need to use photoshop, and you can say "sorry, but no then"

Why do jobs do that.

Man if only i had popcorn rn

because you often negotiate how much you make

inoright

yup

its a negotiation

That's another thing.

The HAGGLING

you just assume industry standard for that area

glassdoor it

Does the application ask that

or does the listing ask that?

they offer you lower, you either take it or say no

Two different things.

only you know how much you are worth

well I wouldn't say that

they only know how much they can offer

I've been paid a living wage in my life.

I too hate haggling

haggling is awesome

What I'm worth? What the fuck does that mean to me.

How much is your time worth

I'd probably overshoot it.

slightly above minimum wage it would seem.

Lmao

I love Tim's random pauses

Lol

Meme status instantly

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Sorry Tim, much love bro

You want to know how much i was expecting with my first job offer? like almost half what they offered. i took it without second thoughts. but i knew how much was the lowest end for my field of work, in that area. that is how much i thought i was worth for being new to the field.

holy shit your pause game is on point

There's no part of this process I don't despise.

Maybe, MAYBE if inflation and other things weren't as nauseous as they are.

well tough shit. there is no board that sets how much a worker is in that industry and for good reason. It means shit employees get paid less and good employees get more.

But this is absurd. Never again can you walk into a place of work and ask to see the manager and "look him in the eye"

employment is a market economy

You can't?

No you can't.

They'll get annoyed and tell you to fill out the online application.