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2018-08-10 23:57:09 UTC

i used to use opera

2018-08-10 23:57:12 UTC

everyone spies?

2018-08-10 23:57:21 UTC

im 90% chrome now and 10% firefox

2018-08-10 23:57:31 UTC

Despite what everyone thinks, it's actually good that youtube is being this flagrantly corrupt.

2018-08-10 23:57:31 UTC

I mean

2018-08-10 23:57:34 UTC

I'm 99% FF and 1% Chrome

2018-08-10 23:57:35 UTC

if you are skeptical of edge spying, then stop using any MS product

2018-08-10 23:57:36 UTC

Imagine if they were good at hiding it!

2018-08-10 23:57:41 UTC

or google product

2018-08-10 23:57:43 UTC

Can you imagine how much evil work they could get done?

2018-08-10 23:57:43 UTC

or apple product

2018-08-10 23:57:48 UTC

Thank GOD they suck at hiding it.

2018-08-10 23:57:56 UTC

basically anything not open source

2018-08-10 23:57:57 UTC

fair

2018-08-10 23:58:02 UTC

or owned by a company

2018-08-10 23:58:05 UTC

right

2018-08-10 23:58:10 UTC

hell, even FF might not be perfect there either

2018-08-10 23:58:16 UTC

seriously though

2018-08-10 23:58:19 UTC

every company has issues

2018-08-10 23:58:24 UTC

FOSS isn't always the answer either

2018-08-10 23:58:30 UTC

just sucks

2018-08-10 23:58:36 UTC

we're in this teenage period of internet

2018-08-10 23:58:40 UTC

and that's the problem

2018-08-10 23:58:48 UTC

angsty aint it

2018-08-10 23:58:52 UTC

yup

2018-08-10 23:58:57 UTC

the internet has to grow up

2018-08-10 23:58:57 UTC

Oh God

2018-08-10 23:59:01 UTC

The internet is a Millenial

2018-08-10 23:59:05 UTC

basicallly

2018-08-10 23:59:05 UTC

become an adult

2018-08-10 23:59:16 UTC

the internet needs to take responsibility

2018-08-10 23:59:41 UTC

tbh, there is a legit reason to be collecting a lot of this information for a product design standpoint. Its very hard to get around it unless you don't want the program to become more useful over time.

2018-08-10 23:59:53 UTC

The internet needs to stop eating avocados and move out of their parents house

2018-08-10 23:59:55 UTC

yes

2018-08-10 23:59:57 UTC

i mean, its like GPS, you cannot use google maps without google maps knowing where the device is

2018-08-11 00:00:09 UTC

>youtube striking h3h3 for talking about jones
>twitter purging proud boys
wtf..I got play gayms for 2 hours and shit happens

2018-08-11 00:00:17 UTC

you cannot use the internet without hte internet knowing where you computer is on the network

2018-08-11 00:00:29 UTC

lots of companies use telemetry to make products better

2018-08-11 00:00:35 UTC

they do

2018-08-11 00:00:44 UTC

it also means they know what you are using it for

2018-08-11 00:00:47 UTC

thats the point

2018-08-11 00:00:57 UTC

and where to improve

2018-08-11 00:01:05 UTC

and share that with installed software vendors

2018-08-11 00:01:13 UTC

so their products improve

2018-08-11 00:01:18 UTC

typically nothing PII

2018-08-11 00:01:23 UTC

but certainly crashdumps, etc

2018-08-11 00:01:37 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463054787336732683/477627615956434992/correct.gif

2018-08-11 00:01:51 UTC

its a catch 22

2018-08-11 00:01:53 UTC

it is

2018-08-11 00:02:02 UTC

but a company has to be able to improve product

2018-08-11 00:02:07 UTC

and data driven product improvement is best

2018-08-11 00:02:17 UTC

and everyone's doing it

2018-08-11 00:02:25 UTC

regardless of people that say they aren't

2018-08-11 00:02:46 UTC

its like when windows xp would ask you to send error data

2018-08-11 00:02:49 UTC

now tha'ts just automatic

2018-08-11 00:03:33 UTC

windows 10 for example

2018-08-11 00:03:34 UTC

the only good option is to no default enable it, but even then, the company will take forever to get that needed datapoints, and most likely only a certain subset will know

2018-08-11 00:03:42 UTC

how to turn it on

2018-08-11 00:03:46 UTC

correct

2018-08-11 00:03:52 UTC

default no doesn't help anyone honestly

2018-08-11 00:03:59 UTC

default low is good

2018-08-11 00:04:12 UTC

and as long as its sanitized

2018-08-11 00:04:18 UTC

it shouldn't matter

2018-08-11 00:04:19 UTC

no PII

2018-08-11 00:04:34 UTC

just the threadstack + processes + systemdata, etc

2018-08-11 00:04:56 UTC

actually, the problem is that the data is being collected, necessarily , but that the same data that is needed to improve the project, can be used to identify you even if they don't know anything more than the location the info came from.

2018-08-11 00:05:12 UTC

probably

2018-08-11 00:05:16 UTC

collected enough data points, you can connect the dots

2018-08-11 00:05:20 UTC

sure

2018-08-11 00:05:24 UTC

there's no getting around that

2018-08-11 00:05:27 UTC

its how hackers break into things

2018-08-11 00:05:36 UTC

if anyone tells you they are hacker proof

2018-08-11 00:05:39 UTC

find someone else

2018-08-11 00:05:48 UTC

security vendor, etc

2018-08-11 00:05:53 UTC

well, they could be disconnected from the internet lmao

2018-08-11 00:05:58 UTC

nope

2018-08-11 00:06:06 UTC

social engineering

2018-08-11 00:06:08 UTC

and have their computer in a locked room with not wires in or out

2018-08-11 00:06:12 UTC

doens't matter

2018-08-11 00:06:30 UTC

if a physical person, even a trusted one, has physical access, it can be hacked

2018-08-11 00:06:34 UTC

idk, at that point they are no longer a hacker, but are a normal thief

2018-08-11 00:06:46 UTC

not necessarily

2018-08-11 00:06:57 UTC

i would consider them a thief.

2018-08-11 00:07:14 UTC

many hackers are theives?

2018-08-11 00:07:22 UTC

most

2018-08-11 00:07:28 UTC

ok then

2018-08-11 00:07:30 UTC

most are also lazy

2018-08-11 00:07:33 UTC

most hackers are about the challenge

2018-08-11 00:07:39 UTC

lazy or arrogant

2018-08-11 00:07:42 UTC

Knife media is gone ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

2018-08-11 00:07:55 UTC

i mean, being tied to a sex cult does not do well for your image

2018-08-11 00:08:09 UTC

bit hard to come back from that

2018-08-11 00:08:13 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463054787336732683/477629277123248128/unknown.png

2018-08-11 00:08:47 UTC

Does anyone know how I can get a hold of Tim Pool? I wish to add context of what happened in Thailand.

2018-08-11 00:08:57 UTC

Redbull tastes absolutely disgusting

2018-08-11 00:09:01 UTC

You could just try sending him a DM

2018-08-11 00:09:08 UTC

DM works

2018-08-11 00:09:23 UTC

Ok, thanks guys.

2018-08-11 00:09:30 UTC

most energy drinks taste disgusting

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