But yeah people were getting buttflustered over the pipeline and tried to hijack shit in the usual way

And Trudeau told them off and kicked them out

Bernie confirmed more spineless than Trudeau

It's one of the only times where I was even slightly impressed with his behaviour

Really ? Well ok yeah i agree bernie is more spineless

Yeah he was like "you're not showing any respect for the other people here, if you continue I'm going to have to ask security to escort you out" and then he did it lol

And lefties were fucking devastated

Bernie let the fucking blm take the stage

He let them step over him

>people elect Trudeau because they figure he'll get rid of the pipeline
>he buys it

Sometimes politics here are hilarious

Canadian politics?

Aye

People spite voted in Trudeau because they were tired of Harper

The NDP tried to swing the vote in their favour but rolled a 1 on Cha

And then everyone fawned over the progressive Dear Leader until he bought the fucking pipeline, kept saying dumb shit and got #metoo'd

Relevant

I knew it

Tim is Far right

Here's a real gripe of mine

I wish nationalist didn't get the negative connotation that it's received

to me I consider a nationalist similar to a patriot, someoen who loves and thinks their country is superior to others for many reasons

I dont' think that it now has a racist element to it when I dont' think it it should

@LotheronPrime i agree being a nationalist is a good thing not a bad thing lefties say

Nothing racist about having pride in your country

Patriots are proud of their country
Nationalists want the best for their country

I guess im both then

Probably doesn't help that during the Bush admin, Patriot became "the President is always right"

I'm both

but then you start adding race tot he mist

mix

white nationalist

is that white people who want the best for their country

or white people that want a white ethnostate

semantics I know

The latter

but is it?

true Beemann

People tend to mix "Patriotism" with "Chauvinism"

I think people probably abuse it to mean the former

why can that be white sepremecists intead of nationalists

But if you're civnat then race doesn't matter

correct

It can be both

White supremacists can be nationalists

In fact that's probably a key component lol

put simply
Patriotism = "America is Great"
Nationaism = "America first"
Chauvinism = "anyone who's not loyal is a communist nazi cotton picker!"

hell, Im' almost all three

The focal point of loyalty is the key

from a culture perspective I mean

not necessarily any individual administration or political party

but merely the American way of life

loyal to "our cause"

meaning that anyone who's not part of your cause is an irredeemable sinner (SJW mentality)

The point of America's system is to not put all trust in the President

right

culture should be more important

Which is why the Bush admin stuff was trash

that lasts centuries

presidents last 8 years at mosts

americas system is "We trust you with the power, at OUR discression"

bush and obama were trash

I mean the cultural attitudes

sure

I do to

Esp wrt PATRIOT

I think Barrak did a horrible diservice tot his country wrt race relations and culture

we were "fine" before his presidency

and now all of a sudden half the country is racist

and there's a ton of anecdotal evidence and polling to back that sentiment up, even in the minority communities

Critical examination of the presidency also went way down

Such that I think people are really having to retrain that now

You mean during obama?

sure

but there's a TON of overcorrection right now

along with the politial leanings of those doing the examination

it seems as though that news outlets have picked a side

and that taints any of their coverage

especailly in this outrage culture we live in

Absolutely

Well it's kinda gone back to the Bush era superficial criticism is the thing now

Like tim was saying, even if the people at the top don't care whats their organization is reporting bcause they're making bank

seems like that happens when its a republican

You guys think hill dawg will run for POTUS

im not saying that's the case

but seems like it

Maybe third times the cha?

Charm?

reagan got a ton of shit

bush sr not so much but yeah

clinton was loved

bush jr got shit

obama was fucking revered

@LotheronPrime spot on man so tru

and now trump is getting the most shit in a long time ( i wont say ever because 19th century politics was brutal)

I cant memba a time when obama had any bad press

and clinton had some bad policities,s ure nafta, etc

but he was pretty centrist and fitting of the times

Benghazi

"Fauning" would be an understatement with Obama. "masturbating" would be accurate.

no clinton president