then only math is a science

and physics and chemistry

nope

yes it is

quantum is 100% unpredictable

Medical sciences are just physics and chemistry

thats physics out of the way

which chemistry is based on

Physics and chemistry are just math

so cuz quantum physics is unpredictable

Physics is unpredictable?

you can predict with certainty that if you do the quantum experiment infinite times, half of the results will be spin one way, and the other hald spin in the other way

try catching a falling piano with your head, who knows 😉 you might NOT die

the reason quantum IS science, is cause we can predict that the results will be one or the other half of the time

ephasis on predict

Is the argument here that if you can't predict something 100% it's not science?

it seems like it

i find it rather odd though

no, its that you can't with certainty guess the outcome

Big difference

Define certainty

100% consistency?

If i give a person a medicine

I can't predict what side effects he'll get if any

Sure you can

You're not going to give someone cough syrup and cure cancer

estimates and averages will tell you the odds of side effects though

which is a form of science

odds can increase or decrease on conditions

which is also science

take Chemo for example

You can't give it to someone and predict they'll cure cancer

it might

Think of it like troubleshooting a very complicated computer

edging closer and closer to the truth

but you can't give that certainty

You don't cure cancer

but never actually getting there

But yeah, you have a massive computer doing calculations you cannot keep track of

There's a bug

massive kitty cats

You troubleshoot by going through a list of potential fixes, because it's infeasible for you to know the exact state of the machine

look at the size of that thing

When you don't know the exact problem, you cant prescribe an exact solution. You can only hope you have the right idea

your point?

But if someone breaks a leg, you can't just give them a bandaid and assume it'll work .001% of the time

motto chanto itte

The idea that medicine is somehow randomized is preposterous

i didn't say that

i said its statistics

and not science

which is false

It's not really though

it isn't a science, and it is statistics

I have put a band aid on my broken foot. It healed

If someone has cancer, and you give him Chemo, you give him a % chance he'll make it, you can't say it for certain

If i ram a solid block of concrete sized a cubic meter into a human beings face at 100 km/h, uninterrupted

I can give him a 100% chance his head is gonna be scattered behind him

unless its on a spring that one time

or an earthquake happens

good ole duke nuke'em science

or it explodes without anyone knowing why

If you drop a person off of a building there's a % chance they'll survive

ramming a block intho a humans face

Physics is now statistics

depends on the falling distance

XD

everyone please ask yourselves why you are continuing this conversation

people have survived falls from planes super high up

47 storeys

cause its fun

and yes, from planes as well

http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/highest-fall-survived-without-parachute

10Km fall: survives

ITS PEGGY

XD

Looks like it's not a 100% chance. Time to relabel physics as statistics

quess physics aint science now

who knew

i do love your strawmans 😉

i didn't say it had to be 100%, you two made it that way

nuh uh

Your point against medicine was that it wasn't 100% lol

once you dont have 100% its statistics not a science

checkmate athiests

#REKT

#OWNeD

i'd like you to find me saying that

well medecine is an applied science tbh

#PWNAGE

formed of several different branches

"If someone has cancer, and you give him Chemo, you give him a % chance he'll make it, you can't say it for certain

If i ram a solid block of concrete sized a cubic meter into a human beings face at 100 km/h, uninterrupted

I can give him a 100% chance his head is gonna be scattered behind him"

did you not say medicine was not a science because it was not 100% predictable?

cause im pretty sure you did

If someone drops out of a plane you give him a % chance he'll make it

XD

i did not Cytos

And Beemann, i said i give a 100% chance his head is gonna be scattered

I didn't say that it has to be 100% to be a science

so again, who's saying that it was?

my concept of science might be different but don't make claims you yourself make and then attribute them to me

By point of comparison

Why isn't medicine a science? Because you can't say chemo will work for certain

Because I can't predict that in the exact same testing parameters the outcome becomes the exact same

after some minor scrolling i got this quote

"its statistics, because i can't predict its endings with certainty"

Why isnt physics a science? Because you can't say a 10k drop will kill for certain