at this point, i hope you brits crash and burn, due to your weak actions in this Brexit fiasco

Except eu is getting better of britain so far

lol wut? EU is effectively the only economic block that matters along with China and USA. Which pile are they bottom of?

Pretty much

"economic block" with half of its countries bankrupt, getting handouts from the US, and niceness from Putin

Lel

Putin? Niceness? He shot down a passenger plane full of your countrymen. You forgotten that?

I didnt know czech got handouts from us ?

just like he interfered with brexit, and the US 2016 elections, and frances elections, and the dutch elections

Putin controls the world if all of that is true

Trump hates the EU because its competition for USA.

He did interfered and so did west in russia

yes, just like we interfere with their elections

its not a one-sided incident

Yeah i couldent care less about that

Putin is a fucking arsehole. He was trying to scupper the recent Greece - Macedonia agreement.

Ofc

He wants fractured europe

the fact you don't care about us meddling in russian affairs, doesn't suddenly discount that theres blood on our hands too

Same as trump

Well excuse me lol

i rather have fractured europe

We czechs could tell you about meddling

than this socialist paradise, where anyone who disagrees on twitter goes to jail

And blood on hands

Lmao

your point?

Blood? We're not the ones bombing the shit out of Syrian civilians and backing the thugs in Donbass.

i'm saying that right off the bat, every country messes with other countries

That's true. But you're way too soft on Russia.

Yep but czech rep didnt invaded russia so far

Lol

Like they did us in 1968

And you're accusing russia based on rumors, from the same intelligence who convinced us of the massive number of superweapons Iraq supposedly had

Putin backed Omar al-Bashir during his atrocities in Darfur. Russia get up to loads of shit.

with the exact same amount of evidence

As i said the interference is mutual

in short summary it was errr....

"We believe"

EU didn't invade Iraq though. Only UK and Spain I think. Or Denmark too. Can't remember.

EU invaded Iraq too

it was a NATO operation

I know france refused at least

Czech sends antichemical squad and field hospital

Lel

they refused to supply soldiers,

But all EU nations supplied money/armaments/supplies

they had to cuz it was a NATO operation

But yeah invasion of iraq was a mistake

I agree fully

yes, and had as much evidence as "Russia meddled with X"

it was all based on the CIA and FBI etc saying "We believe it happened"

Except for the Kurds in northern Iraq. At least someone benefitted.

Proof? No, but "We have strong reasons to"

Anyway all this is besides the point you were saying how eu is dependent on russia and us

Toppling dictators in the belief liberal democracy will blossom in the wake. Nice idea. Turned out to be disastrous in practice (Iraq, Libya).

It is dependent, like 60% of Germans gas/oil is bought from Russia

Libya has open air slave markets now. Thanks, Hilary

And obama

And sarkozy

Sarkozy was huge on Libya.

Sarkozy was extra scumbag in this

He was really adamant on it.

Since he pretended friendship with gaddafi before

Also with that oil its dependent in both ways

@Dr.Wol Yeah. Only thing I'd say though is that Germany pays for that gas. So its not like Putin does it out of charity. Germany has opposed US-suggested sanctions on Russia because of the gas dependency.

Russia is also dependent on that money from that

so what happens when Putin stops that gas supply?

they have to get it from somewhere else

Greece froze the last time

Lol

There are other gas pipes btw

One goes through Azerbaijan

It would hurt Russia to stop selling their gas to Germany. I'm not understanding your meaning.

If i remember right

And then there is the oil and gas in northern and baltic sea

think further SJF,

Trump becomes friends with Putin

If Europe doesn't wanna play ball with America, Trump cuts the EU off, Putin cuts the EU off, Trump pays for the gas from Putin,
EU is cut out of the deal and is the only one to collapse

Anyway germany is transforming to green energy

So in time they will not care

he's doing the same with Iran,

He doesn't have to fight a military war, He just becomes friends with their allies, and ahve them cut Iran off economically

Well except in that case

Eu would cut deal with china

same with china, who's export is 60% to the US, it would collapse if Trump would block it with Tariffs,


This is why all these "great economic blocks" capitulate in the negotiation within a week

Which was already suggesting it

And us would not colapse from that ?

How is Europe not playing ball with America?

US is richer than that, they can afford the hit

Even if eu colapsed that would cause major shitstorm everywhere

Europe IS playing ball, didn't you see? they are accepting lower tariffs and increasing import with the US

Last time i saw they agreed on negotiating reciprocical low tarrifs

what Trump is doing is playing risky, because if anyone of these blocks collapses, we all go down

He's banking 100% on the fact that everyone knows that even in the collapse US will end up at the top,

So to avoid that, they all chicken out

Last time was when tho?

Cuz yesterday they made a new deal for lower tariffs, and importing Soybeans + Natural Gas

Ok. I dont understand why Trump has gone to war with his allies though. In a decade's time, China will've become the world's leading economy. By dividing the west against itself, Trump is only benefitting China.

^^

I didnt read anything about gas and soy beans ?

@Sarah Jessica Farter china doesnt have shit

They buy shit from us all the time

Well they have manpower

thats cuz of the current course where its all "ooh lets be nice to non-US countries"

Trump wants his allies to become fully connected to the US, so they can then cut China out again

@zutt how so ? They are top heavy with old people

bringing back Jobs for simple things to replace China's export

China fucked themselves with the one child policy