Lel

they refused to supply soldiers,

But all EU nations supplied money/armaments/supplies

they had to cuz it was a NATO operation

But yeah invasion of iraq was a mistake

I agree fully

yes, and had as much evidence as "Russia meddled with X"

it was all based on the CIA and FBI etc saying "We believe it happened"

Except for the Kurds in northern Iraq. At least someone benefitted.

Proof? No, but "We have strong reasons to"

Anyway all this is besides the point you were saying how eu is dependent on russia and us

Toppling dictators in the belief liberal democracy will blossom in the wake. Nice idea. Turned out to be disastrous in practice (Iraq, Libya).

It is dependent, like 60% of Germans gas/oil is bought from Russia

Libya has open air slave markets now. Thanks, Hilary

And obama

And sarkozy

Sarkozy was huge on Libya.

Sarkozy was extra scumbag in this

He was really adamant on it.

Since he pretended friendship with gaddafi before

Also with that oil its dependent in both ways

@Dr.Wol Yeah. Only thing I'd say though is that Germany pays for that gas. So its not like Putin does it out of charity. Germany has opposed US-suggested sanctions on Russia because of the gas dependency.

Russia is also dependent on that money from that

so what happens when Putin stops that gas supply?

they have to get it from somewhere else

Greece froze the last time

Lol

There are other gas pipes btw

One goes through Azerbaijan

It would hurt Russia to stop selling their gas to Germany. I'm not understanding your meaning.

If i remember right

And then there is the oil and gas in northern and baltic sea

think further SJF,

Trump becomes friends with Putin

If Europe doesn't wanna play ball with America, Trump cuts the EU off, Putin cuts the EU off, Trump pays for the gas from Putin,
EU is cut out of the deal and is the only one to collapse

Anyway germany is transforming to green energy

So in time they will not care

he's doing the same with Iran,

He doesn't have to fight a military war, He just becomes friends with their allies, and ahve them cut Iran off economically

Well except in that case

Eu would cut deal with china

same with china, who's export is 60% to the US, it would collapse if Trump would block it with Tariffs,


This is why all these "great economic blocks" capitulate in the negotiation within a week

Which was already suggesting it

And us would not colapse from that ?

How is Europe not playing ball with America?