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2018-10-22 17:36:10 UTC

I had actually considered telling them that whatever they're doing isn't enough. Like, if they think the wage should be 15, it really should be 30

2018-10-22 17:36:18 UTC

By putting forth a number which most people would regard as very high you force them to correct you, or risk scaring off the general population

2018-10-22 17:36:19 UTC

just to see how far I could push them into lunacy

2018-10-22 17:36:36 UTC

Not everyone has an IQ above 90. Yet these people are denied entry to the workforce due to minimum wage restrictions thus placing undue pressure on social welfare programs.

2018-10-22 17:37:16 UTC

This is sort of an extension of the 15-30 effort, but its increased to allow for maximum shock value

2018-10-22 17:38:05 UTC

Raiding the minimum wage will only serve to accelerate automation in effort to defray the cost, driving more underprivileged workers out of the workforce.

2018-10-22 17:38:09 UTC

There's no need for a legal min wage when the welfare state already creates a wage floor.

2018-10-22 17:38:12 UTC

Just finished watch chunk vs tuck it was decent the hour def flew by

2018-10-22 17:38:23 UTC

I don't need them getting mad at me because I apparently showed that they were wrong

2018-10-22 17:38:39 UTC

and if they start using your 110 number or saying things like "professors and staff should be paid the same" during their protests later you will know beyond a reasonable doubt that they have no goal in mind

2018-10-22 17:38:59 UTC

they have no goal in mind?

2018-10-22 17:39:04 UTC

then why are they protesting in the first place

2018-10-22 17:39:11 UTC

No specific number that they want achieved

2018-10-22 17:39:14 UTC

Accelerating automation is beneficial, though.

2018-10-22 17:39:30 UTC
2018-10-22 17:39:45 UTC

Protesting isnt to affect change, its to show displeasure with soemthing

2018-10-22 17:39:48 UTC

kill all the menz

2018-10-22 17:39:51 UTC

No larger goal is necessary

2018-10-22 17:39:52 UTC

I thought we were like lobsters?

2018-10-22 17:40:06 UTC

McDonalds is piloting a nearly fully automated restaurant in several key cities in direct response to pressures to raise minimum wage. This will get accelerated when that happens and drive thousands of workers elsewhere to find employment and health benefits.

2018-10-22 17:40:08 UTC

LOBSTERKING BTFO RIGHT WING NPCS REKT

2018-10-22 17:40:28 UTC

lol srsly... "Now, add โ€œoverthrowing the patriarchyโ€ to that list."

2018-10-22 17:40:50 UTC

I think street protesting is mostly virtue signaling theater.

2018-10-22 17:41:02 UTC

yes... the termites have overthrown the patriarchy .. by killing all the men...

2018-10-22 17:41:10 UTC

hm, I think I might see what you're saying. If I give them the "morally superior answer" (Canada is better than drumph's America reeeeee) and they disagree with it, I'd force them to rethink their entire argument?

2018-10-22 17:42:24 UTC

This kind of automation is also being explored by large companies like Walmart and Amazon who are already highly automated. Minimum wage increases have historically reduced the labor pool of low-income wage earners and will continue to do so by most estimates.

2018-10-22 17:42:54 UTC

"Tanya Dapkey, an entomologist at the University of Pennsylvania, said that there was much to learn from successful โ€œsocieties in nature run without any input from males.โ€"

2018-10-22 17:43:11 UTC

the termites can fuck off, "real journalism"

2018-10-22 17:43:34 UTC

Yes thats correct. Assuming that they have no goal in mind and they're protesting for the moral reason of a "liveable wage" they should default to the most moral position possible. Until now theyve been fed generalizations, however by giving them a number it brings them back to reality instead of allowing their minds to fill in the blanks naturally.

2018-10-22 17:44:28 UTC

I like the idea of putting up more posters during the night explaining this

2018-10-22 17:44:58 UTC

Just remember to post a picture of them here before you post them irl

2018-10-22 17:45:00 UTC

hopefully a lot of people won't see me so no one will know who did it

2018-10-22 17:45:10 UTC

You can't just increase minimum wage and say that you'll "re-train" unskilled laborers who get displaced by the automation as a result. This is a myth perpetuated by politicians who ignore the basic truth that not all people are in fact "equal" and some simply are not capable of taking on more highly skilled work requiring higher cognition.

2018-10-22 17:45:42 UTC

Because im sure everyone remembers when the media depicted "its ok to be white" posters as "white supremacist posters"

2018-10-22 17:45:50 UTC

because if they decide that the new number is a better answer, won't they try to reign me in as a "hero" for the movement

2018-10-22 17:47:01 UTC

They shouldnt, that would threaten whatever control the organizers already have over the protest/movement

2018-10-22 17:47:35 UTC

how can you be so sure? I'd assume they'd adopt whatever makes them look the best, even if it hurts their cause

2018-10-22 17:47:54 UTC

think TERFs

2018-10-22 17:47:59 UTC

Are you a minority or white? and are you a male or female?

2018-10-22 17:48:05 UTC

I'm a white male lol

2018-10-22 17:48:12 UTC

I'm their face of evil

2018-10-22 17:48:21 UTC

you think theyll want the face of evil at the head of their movement?

2018-10-22 17:48:32 UTC

hm, good point

2018-10-22 17:48:41 UTC

Besides you can always refuse them

2018-10-22 17:48:43 UTC

You might be overstating the disruption because people with IQ < 90 are mostly unemployable already.

2018-10-22 17:48:51 UTC

its not like they can force you to take part in the protest

2018-10-22 17:49:46 UTC

well, what happens if I get caught? what you said about the "it's okay to be white" posters

2018-10-22 17:50:06 UTC

if they assume I'm just trying to upset people, I'll get the bias response team or some shit breathing down my neck

2018-10-22 17:50:16 UTC

If you get caught doing what? putting up posters?

2018-10-22 17:50:37 UTC

Any politician who claims to be fighting for "equality" is fundamentally corrupt. People don't want to hear that humans are much more complex and variant along three axis that drive their relative success

Values - those principles that are held most dearly and usually imbued during childhood and by culture. Not everyone is equal and shares the same values. For example, Islam's treatment of women.

Skills- those things that are learned by training or by experience. Again, this is highly variant.

Abilities- those things that come naturally. For example, those able to play basketball professionally are typically very tall.

2018-10-22 17:50:40 UTC

I think they could easily frame it as "vandalizing" since I'm putting up something right next to them

2018-10-22 17:50:51 UTC

though I guess I don't have to put it next to them in the first place

2018-10-22 17:50:58 UTC

Unless you're putting them on top of the other things its not a worry

2018-10-22 17:51:14 UTC

Maybe you need a permit or something to do it and you might get some trouble for that

2018-10-22 17:51:20 UTC

but its usually just fines

2018-10-22 17:52:02 UTC

I see a lot of fliers going up without permits.

I like this idea. The reeing will be amusing to say the least

2018-10-22 17:52:05 UTC

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2018-10-22 17:52:15 UTC

Remember, the media will frame you as evil no matter what you do

2018-10-22 17:52:38 UTC

But you sound like youve been paying attention so you know their playbook and you know what they're going to do

2018-10-22 17:52:42 UTC

I've got class so I'm off. We can talk about this more later, I've got a number of things to do today

2018-10-22 17:53:10 UTC

If you have an IQ below 90, you don't possess the required ABILITY to perform more highly skilled labor requiring higher cognition- therefore the market cannot support what value you provide at a 15 dollar rate.

2018-10-22 17:53:47 UTC

It's not "hate" it's just cold hard reality

2018-10-22 17:54:20 UTC

So what we should be doing to help those people is fight to abolish the minimum wage entirely.

2018-10-22 17:54:47 UTC

I'm actually arguing for the more compassionate position to benefit the most people in the real world.

2018-10-22 17:55:14 UTC

Yet I'm the "evil" center-right libertarian jew

2018-10-22 17:55:37 UTC

An IQ below 110 is a "simpleton" eh?

2018-10-22 17:55:44 UTC

<:ReminaEye:485363422326816789> ~ <:ReminaEye:485363422326816789>

2018-10-22 17:55:50 UTC

If I remember correctly

2018-10-22 17:55:57 UTC

Apparently everything is "center right" outside of socialism and its variants

2018-10-22 17:55:59 UTC

110 was average right?

2018-10-22 17:56:14 UTC

>believing in IQ

2018-10-22 17:56:24 UTC

IQ doesn't exist

2018-10-22 17:56:28 UTC

The fact is, there are people who don't have the ability to provide market value at or above 15 dollars. They deserve to have the dignity of earning a wage the market will support

2018-10-22 17:56:39 UTC

IQ was made up by Australia, which also does not exist

2018-10-22 17:56:50 UTC

HA take that ya cunts!

2018-10-22 17:57:54 UTC

Earning a wage shouldnt be the main focus of a person's life, social welfare should pick up the slack of those who are unable to find work

2018-10-22 17:58:05 UTC

This is also the same argument against collective bargaining. It eliminates market mobility and competition that allows entry level workers to enter the markets to compete.

2018-10-22 17:58:13 UTC

assuming that they have a good reason for such a thing beyond laziness that is

2018-10-22 17:59:02 UTC

I believe in collective bargaining when it comes to workplace safety issues that affect the well being of workers. I'm opposed to it when it comes to wages.

2018-10-22 17:59:35 UTC

Alright. Well if I get the job officially today I'll have been unemployed for 4 work days

2018-10-22 17:59:58 UTC
2018-10-22 17:59:59 UTC

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2018-10-22 18:00:01 UTC

Minimum salary requirements almost always wind up hurting the poorest people

2018-10-22 18:00:05 UTC
2018-10-22 18:00:06 UTC

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2018-10-22 18:00:46 UTC

ofc the pedo state rep is for abortion

2018-10-22 18:00:53 UTC

abort the evidence is likely his motto

2018-10-22 18:00:58 UTC

Wait.

2018-10-22 18:01:00 UTC

Wait wait wait.

2018-10-22 18:01:06 UTC

Why would the pedo be pro-abortion.

2018-10-22 18:01:10 UTC

That's less fuckmeat.

2018-10-22 18:01:27 UTC

They sound good on paper but in reality aren't as effective as their proponents claim and almost always wind up in massive social welfare expansion.

2018-10-22 18:02:46 UTC

Milton Friedman excellently pointed this out many years ago. I highly encourage everyone to go check out his talks on YouTube.

2018-10-22 18:02:50 UTC

You need a job

2018-10-22 18:03:02 UTC

Go get a job

2018-10-22 18:03:09 UTC

Your daddy had a job

2018-10-22 18:03:13 UTC

His daddy had a job

2018-10-22 18:03:15 UTC

This NPC is broken.

2018-10-22 18:03:23 UTC

Your son will have a job

2018-10-22 18:03:26 UTC

Where's our damn coder.

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