And it's not easy to even get a green card.

well, i think you for your service Khan

thank you even

cant type for shit today

You are welcome Tyler

without people like you willing to come here and put in the work, america would not be what it is today, and i will always believe that.

even if they are trying to beat it out of me these days lol

My father came here, my mother was born here as was I.

I hate when people move to countries without wanting to contribute back. That's why I'm not moving to the US until I have my degree and I'm a qualified music teacher

well, im totally ok with people moving here to learn to contribute as well

I served pretty much my entire time under Obama's administration

i would never discount students wanting to lean Cipher

learn

Oh yeah of course but sitting around enjoying benefits and giving nothing back is a bit lame

Like I'd be educated in the US if it wasn't as expensive and I wasn't afraid to voice my political opinions

I'd be doing an arts course, so... yeesh

lol

Eew 😛 arts

ya arts is pretty much a one way street right now

The bubbles can be dangerous Cipher

Lmao, professional musicianship

And I'm a right-leaning punk singer

Sooooooo essentially I'd get hounded

wow that is interesting

Art schools were always kind of, iffy

Art requires passion, and guidance,

Not a classroom 😦

i want to hear a right leaning punk song, just want to see what in the hell thats all about lol

Scotch Korean!!!

Right-Leaning Punk song?

"Fuck the Establishment! I'ma be a self made millionaire!!"

Yeah, I stand against identitarianism and anti-intellectualism, and for social cohesion

"Yeah yeah Yeah!!! Self Made Millionaire!"

I'm more fix the system than fuck the system

Anarchists are dumbasses

Anarchy leads to kratocracy

I am an anarchist leaning fuedalist

Feudalism?!

kratocracy, thats a new one, gotta google that

Kratocracy = Might Makes Right

is that where only kratos is our god?

oooh gotcha OTSS

kind of

The one thing I'll say about anarchism is what do you do when someone breaks into your house with a gun threatening to kill you

What are you gonna do, call the police?

ONLY THE STRONG SURVIVE

lol

Its basically, you get a warlord to just become the new authority

Yeah

ya i dont need no warlords over here

I am not really a feudalist, but that line is good for a WTF

I'm a strict constitutionalist, for the most part

ya that could make for a good line in a song

Anarchism has no authority, so theres no leadership,

So you get a dude who gathers a band of raiders, and starts conquering cuz he IS leading, and has an army that follows, against a horde of non-unified people

So he conquers and becomes a warlord and becomes the new king

Im a strick constitutaionalist Wooo HOOOOOO

dunno, doesnt roll off the toung too well

lol

My writing atm is mainly against identitarianism and authoritarianism

well ill def come see you on concert when you make it over this way

I am a Constitutionalist who focuses on individual rights and personal responciblity

"I see no race! I'm colorblind! That guy in office I can't get behind!! Yeah yeah yeah!!" *guitar solo*

E.g. newest song is called Witch Hammer, using the Malleus Maleficarum and the inquisition of witch hunters as a metaphor for how people puppet good causes for their own personal gratification and how they're hypocrites by purging fascism through fascism

Song before that was Saint Nothing, disavowing the deification of celebrity figures as moral guides

damn Doc, thats a good lyric

Cipher, jot that down

lol

Lmao

Nah, I write everything myself

Antifa, becoming a new generation of NAZI SA to fight neo-nazis!

aint that the truth

I'm down to show lyrics to anyone who's interested in DMs, but if I hear any of my shit on Soundcloud I will use screenshots in the copyright trial lmao

lol

ill watch for the WH to come out, nice title, sound more metal than punk. just going off teh song name

I walk the line of metal and punk, I guess

I've got a Rob Zombie/Marilyn Manson sorta vibe to my sound, sometimes it's close to Tool

My more personal introspective shit is more Pearl Jam

I'll be linking my stuff once I start dropping it, I think I've gotten lucky at my university

By coincidence, some bandmates I had a few years ago are all on the same course as me

And we might have found a producer so

In the next year, year and a half? I'll be dropping stuff

Although due to Airstrip One clamping down on us, I might do it through an edgy pseudonym or something

nice, good luck Cipher

Thanks bro

im glad i joined in today, yall are a nice group of people to chat with

waiting on servers to reboot, got bored and decided to chime in

The plan is generally I'm gonna be quite down-to-earth and communicate a lot with my fans, encourage rational discussion since they already have my music as common ground, eventually move into actually doing stuff as opposed to empty vapid protests

Break into and/or kickstart the underground scene again

I think the trolls are napping right now TylerC

Show people I'm not a lame-ass edgy poseur, demonstrate I'm open to other people, probs by collabing with some local rappers who I know hold similar views to me

maybe so, i totally expected i would get trolled out of chat to be honest

Or at least, views that aren't retarded

Nah Tyler people are chill round here

im a bit of a bumpkin sometimes

i try not to be, but just comes with the territiroy of NC lol

But yeah the goal is to bring people together, not make myself a divisive figure

well you sound like a level headed dude

i think you have a shot at that goal

So I'll embrace the Other, which is the job of rock, but I'll have my arms open for the Mainstream

Thank you very much, Tyler, that means a lot

It's optimistic, but hey, gotta aim high

damn right

goals arent worth having if you can just bust them out

Only problem I have is my girlfriend lives in America, so either there's gotta be a real movement substantiating in the UK over the next few years or I'm gonna have to start my battle state-side