Can we spice it up a bit maybe

not just reforming the culture, we want to end it

sure, that was just a rough idea

I like it

I like the first one more

pls no African country tier tricolor

yeah so do I

I don't like the blue

prefer two color

red could be brighter

darker blue?

darker red

dunno

What about some gold

how about bright red/black bicolor

I thought we didn't want gold

Not into it. I want it to be instantly appealing and understandable without explanation. Let me find the examples I posted before our discord got Zucc'd.

Not there but somewhere

ok

Yeah @Tony H but they had gay America flags and a German eagle

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I think this is good, nice and simple

Tony has a point about it

Even besides the optics of it, it didn't very good

But

We can always adjust things

Symbol first, flag second IMO

anything can be in the circle

That's why we have these convos

Just slap the symbol on a black flag afterwards

primary/secondary colors

but symbol is most important

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brighter red

more of a burnt orange

This is what I came up with, sorta bland. But the symbolism is the shield is the protection we offer, and the shovel symbolizes our struggle and hard work

symbols don't have to be easily understood. In the 20s nobody knew what a Swastika meant. But it was visually striking

Looks like a computer on/off button

needs to spark conversation

it was given a meaning

yeah it kinda does @titanium huwhite

It was. The swastika is literally hypnotising

But it looks too much like a gender symbol or yeah

An on off button

yeah possibly

It's unique

Something we need

I like the idea of a unique simplistic symbol

exactly

Just not that exactly

I'm working on stuff too

Just keep at it boys

when we hit revision #442

we'll know we got it right 😄

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@JohanC yeah they were vague examples. I didn't want that exact thing. I'm not opposed to using colors that people are familiar with or symbols. We can do something unique I just want a person to be able to look at it and understand what it is. If your propaganda takes a lot of explanation then it isn't doing what you need it to do.

Crosses put us in a box

IE, Identitarian, Golden Dawn etc symbols aren't immediately understood

are we doing black and red?

Too intricate

so no christian symbols right?

No the colors don't even need to be discussed immediately

ok yeah nevermind

It's all about logo and symbolism

We can mix and match colors all day

are we liking this basic design tho

not taking into account the symbol

I would say no Christian symbols bc crowns and lions and all types of shit are Christian symbols

But crosses are to explicit

Personally I do like it

was @Tony H going to post those examples?

the cross is too intrict i know...i can make much cleaner

I think we'd NEED an original symbol if we're trying to build a brand into somebodies mind

template

I think so too

Symbolism isn't propaganda @Tony H

Delet

hmmm wut could mean

@Fevs how isn't it?

Symbolism is a brand, you teach people what symbols mean

@Tony H What did the swastika mean in 1900?

What did Golden Dawn's symbol mean before they picked it up? Not what it does now

The main example I had was this. Obviously I don't want the Reich eagle on it. Something familiar but fashy. I'm into sheilds specifically.

The swastika was already a European symbol

The golden dawn symbol is thousands of years old and means justice.

@Tony H What does that have that people automatically see and recognize?

Red huwyte and blue aka America and a German eagle aka natze

And the fasces

And fascists axes

@Tony H I like it, but my eyes get a litle confused on what the focal point is

There are colors that they recognize so they're already drawn to it. Having a sheilds implies that you're protecting or defending something. It can have other symbols to show more specifically what we are as well.

Yeah I said it's an example that needs worked on