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2021-01-27 05:40:48 UTC

Question...has Biden made that special tax for those making over $400,000 a year yet?

2021-01-27 05:40:55 UTC

id say there is 3
populist left
populist right
and establishment
you can say people want to be left alone but that isnt a real group they can hold these views and keep quiet.
its in history too ww2 and modern civil wars comes to mind

2021-01-27 05:41:23 UTC

I think he did that at the same time he removed the Trump tax cuts

2021-01-27 05:43:51 UTC

Those who wish to be left alone are their own faction. They have guns too, but they're not aligned with us. Narcos, Ancaps, that kind of thing? They don't believe in national pride. They think the whole idea of Nationalism and having a cultural identity as some sort of stupid joke.

2021-01-27 05:45:01 UTC

If all of us got wiped out, I don't think they'd be sad.

2021-01-27 05:45:52 UTC

Theyโ€™re more like the drug addicted raiders from fallout

2021-01-27 05:47:54 UTC

I was an Ancap for a long time. They're all about non-aggression. So they aint going to come hunting for you or your stuff. But they also don't believe in the idea of "Being an American."

It's either you believe in free trade and non-aggression, or you do not. There is no in-between.

2021-01-27 05:48:49 UTC

establishment will concede to whatever is popular and within their interests.
populist left wants more for the people to sacrifice the state and in turn themselves by failing the rest
populist right wants to self govern and do whats right for them.
in my opinion the right has it more on spot with separate rules for different areas, but they want control like any other and will inact rules all the same that hurts different livelyhoods. there is no real one policy just self governance for each area for their needs. and if it fails people leave and it collapses. to be born again with a new idea. non-urban areas has it easier cus less restriction works.

2021-01-27 05:48:57 UTC

Iโ€™m gonna go out on a limb and say theyโ€™re anti capitalists?

2021-01-27 05:49:21 UTC

Who?

2021-01-27 05:49:31 UTC

Ancaps

2021-01-27 05:49:46 UTC

No, Ancap stands for "Anarcho-capitalist."

2021-01-27 05:49:53 UTC

^

2021-01-27 05:49:53 UTC

Ah I see

2021-01-27 05:50:32 UTC

Doesnโ€™t the anarcho part seem a little contradictory to the whole nonaggression thing?

2021-01-27 05:50:43 UTC

So as long as you're not trading in people *anything* is on the table for sale. Sex, drugs whatever.

2021-01-27 05:50:48 UTC

not all anarchists are non-agressive

2021-01-27 05:51:06 UTC

but most who want a civilized society do

2021-01-27 05:51:16 UTC

^

2021-01-27 05:51:48 UTC

Anarchist simply means "Without Authority."

2021-01-27 05:52:11 UTC

Broken down to its constitute latin.

2021-01-27 05:52:14 UTC

yep, some can take that as no rules mad max it, and some say smoke weed and grow our own food

2021-01-27 05:52:47 UTC

They seem like fun people to trade with

2021-01-27 05:52:59 UTC

ever been to the almish?

2021-01-27 05:53:24 UTC

You mean the Amish?

2021-01-27 05:53:37 UTC

they are almost a anarchy. their own rules, their own ways of doing things, they still trade like any other

2021-01-27 05:54:00 UTC

sorry if fast typing i learned a few days ago if you dont type fast you get beaten XD

2021-01-27 05:54:30 UTC

It's an extreme sport, it is ๐Ÿ™‚

2021-01-27 05:54:35 UTC

yep lol

2021-01-27 05:54:50 UTC

Fun fact: All amish have modern rifles.

2021-01-27 05:55:07 UTC

#not all

2021-01-27 05:55:19 UTC

Really? I know the ones here do.

2021-01-27 05:55:27 UTC

i know i group i buy lumber from who make their own muskets XD

2021-01-27 05:56:01 UTC

In which general area is โ€œhereโ€

2021-01-27 05:56:07 UTC

Minnesota

2021-01-27 05:56:27 UTC

Isnโ€™t that where Tyler Zed is?

2021-01-27 05:56:34 UTC

east kentucky i can drop a pin but i dont know off hand cus i rarely go there

2021-01-27 05:56:53 UTC

Yeah, he actually posted some videos of an area I grew up near. Won't say where.

2021-01-27 05:56:59 UTC

but ill say best lumber around worth the drive

2021-01-27 05:57:37 UTC

Well, I won't say the video. I grew up in Stillwater.

2021-01-27 05:58:43 UTC

Being in Cali, itโ€™s kind of hard to prepare for a shit hit the fan scenario, because we donโ€™t have basements, guns and ammunition are more scarce then the other states, especially now, and there are lots of idiots here

2021-01-27 05:59:38 UTC

im sorry man

2021-01-27 05:59:39 UTC

Leave. Come to the land of Ice and Snow.

2021-01-27 06:00:16 UTC

im looking for primers, other then that the tennessee is pretty good!

2021-01-27 06:00:22 UTC

Iโ€™m have like $80 rn

2021-01-27 06:00:39 UTC

Enough for a bus ticket.

2021-01-27 06:01:21 UTC

And we have welfare programs up the wazoo. You'll be back on your feet in no time.

2021-01-27 06:01:25 UTC

and dont think i know land of ice and snow, i was born and raised wisconsonite we know cheese beer and guns, but tennessee tax and housing is so much cheeper!

2021-01-27 06:01:43 UTC

I don't doubt it, Serenity.

2021-01-27 06:01:59 UTC

Iโ€™ll probably save up, and gather important stuff for a bug out bag and shit like that in case CA decides to become Fallout without the nukes and fun shit

2021-01-27 06:02:54 UTC

We should probably stop clogging the chat with things that have nothing to do with History.

2021-01-27 06:03:07 UTC

Probably yeah

2021-01-27 06:03:21 UTC

all the advice i can give is from a bus ticket you can make the world. my sister did it, i did it, we chose different paths she went to chicago i went to tennesee, she bacame a liberal and still rents to this day i worked in a factory and bought a house

2021-01-27 06:03:23 UTC

You guys have mics?

2021-01-27 06:03:38 UTC

yep

2021-01-27 06:03:56 UTC

Join me in general 1.

2021-01-27 06:04:17 UTC

Not at the moment no, Iโ€™m out of the house looking for something

2021-01-27 16:57:56 UTC

In case anyone saw that cringy video where Arnold Schwarzenegger compared the capitol incident to the "night of broken glass" and didn't know what he was talking about...
**THIS** is what he was comparing it to:
https://www.history.com/topics/holocaust/kristallnacht

2021-01-27 16:59:15 UTC

That is not what id compare the capitol incident to

2021-01-27 16:59:29 UTC

the last 8 months? definitely

2021-01-27 17:04:20 UTC

Thatโ€™s what I thought when I read above. The BLM riots was way closer.

2021-01-27 17:05:50 UTC

Thank you, at least someone actually said it. Also itโ€™s like everyone saying to me โ€œTrumpโ€™s worse than Hitlerโ€ Hitler killed 6 million of my people so no despite any opinions on Trump, statistically Hitler is still pure evil who realistically shouldnโ€™t be compared to

2021-01-27 17:07:46 UTC

People like Stalin weren't better, despite what idiots on the left said, he also attacked poland from the other side out of a grudge over the russian defeat at least 20 years earlier

2021-01-27 17:09:33 UTC

FINALLY...someone else knows that Hitler and Stalin tag-teamed Poland....

2021-01-27 17:09:57 UTC

And thatโ€™s a good point and Stalin is one of a few in history who you can compare to Hitler because both were evil cunts

2021-01-27 17:10:22 UTC

My god..I have history professors trying to tell me differently and Iโ€™m like..
โ€œWhat....no!? Hitler and Salian had the Soviet-Nazi Non-aggression pact.โ€

2021-01-27 17:10:44 UTC

The Molotov-Ribintrov pact

2021-01-27 17:10:54 UTC

Most likely spelt that wrong

2021-01-27 17:12:33 UTC

But for real the ones comparing more regular and level headed people and politicians to Hitler are those that didnโ€™t do too well in history class

2021-01-27 17:16:40 UTC

If Iโ€™m correct itโ€™s a type of way to win people on your side....itโ€™s like, I donโ€™t know how to phrase it precisely, a real thing where you brainwash people by mind tricking them by following some steps... I think 5-7, not for sure.
1) talk about the other person.
2) mention what they believe.
3) ask the audience, โ€œring a bell?โ€ โ€œWho else said thatโ€ etc.
4) point out Hitler/ Stalin
5) โ€œcompareโ€ their beliefs

2021-01-27 18:05:38 UTC

Iโ€™m confused

2021-01-27 18:06:26 UTC

How does anyone remotely versed in history *not* know that the USSR attacked Poland as well

2021-01-27 18:06:58 UTC

The first stages of Barbarossa were in Poland iirc

2021-01-27 19:04:45 UTC

History teachers/ professors are leaving it out. Like my cousin in high school (the same one I graduated from 3 years ago) is now having it to where any WW2 information is only about the USA joining the war till it ends...the โ€œnight of knivesโ€ โ€œbullbeer Marchโ€ and etc are being left out. Even the Nazi swastica is being dropped.

2021-01-27 19:25:35 UTC

Also they tend not to focus on the Soviet Union. Especially on collage campusโ€™ because itโ€™s a hard task to pump communist ideologies into students but then properly condemn the USSR. Also as an aside because The Allied powers sided with The Commenturn (again poor spelling my apologies) not out of a love for the USSR but because Hitler broke the pact with Stalin and โ€œthe enemy of my enemy is my friendโ€ so any enemy of Nazi Germany is The Allies Friend. However thanks to the Cold War the involvement of the USSR is often downplayed so rather than Germany and Russia invading Poland itโ€™s simply phrased as โ€œGermany invaded Polandโ€ at least thatโ€™s how it was taught to me in Secondary school which is the British equivalent to high school

2021-01-27 19:27:20 UTC

Technically it starts with Germany invading poland, just that Russia joined in a little after that

2021-01-27 19:48:03 UTC

The British East India Company had control of India from 1757 to 1857, so could the East India Company be considered the first real example of Anarcho-Capitalism?

2021-01-27 19:48:17 UTC

just an interesting thought that came to my mind

2021-01-27 20:41:29 UTC

It's interesting how no one really talks about the Soviets invading Poland. If i recall correctly, it happened 16 days after Germany did, (i may be incorrect).

2021-01-27 20:57:36 UTC

The first reports of Russians entering polish territory were documented to be roughly 2 weeks after the initial invasion by Germany

2021-01-28 10:52:06 UTC

So by sheer nature the soviets are overshadowed by the Nazis because they was there first

2021-01-28 10:52:51 UTC

who like roman empire

2021-01-28 17:33:25 UTC

Donโ€™t fool yourself. Calling Hitler Pure evil is absolutely wrong. Iโ€™m not defending the man, but when you call a man a monster, you must keep in mind that he is in fact man. Know that saying ,โ€Perhaps the greatest trick the devil pulled was convincing everyone that he didnโ€™t existโ€? That principle applies here

2021-01-28 17:34:01 UTC

People - human beings are capable of tremendous good and terrible evil.

2021-01-28 18:03:05 UTC

I would also point who on first place allow him to take "power" in Germany

2021-01-28 18:03:32 UTC

Weimar Republic

2021-01-28 18:04:10 UTC

Yes it happen on 17/09/1939 My grandfather twas taken as a prisoner of war by soviets

2021-01-28 20:26:14 UTC

i am sorry to hear that

2021-01-28 20:34:58 UTC

he run away than German caught him and he spent 4 years in Dachau, but he survive

2021-01-29 00:22:28 UTC

Fascism is the result after the inevitable faillure of Communism. See modern China for details.

2021-01-29 00:23:00 UTC

Fascism is evil, and it's awful in virtually every way. But at least it's workable.

2021-01-29 00:23:45 UTC

That's not a defense of Fascism, merely an indictment of Communism.

2021-01-29 00:40:36 UTC

well, not necessarily. Hitler and Mussolini were Fascists and they were an authoritarian force to fight the authoritarian Communists

2021-01-29 00:42:20 UTC

That's a non sequiter.

2021-01-29 00:42:41 UTC

How does that mean that Fascism does not follow in the wake of Communism?

2021-01-29 00:43:10 UTC

its more of the other way around

2021-01-29 00:43:34 UTC

for example, Pol Pot's regime came after the Facsist Dictatorship of Prince Sianouk

2021-01-29 00:43:37 UTC

I never said that Communism can't follow fascism.

2021-01-29 00:43:54 UTC

I said that Fascism comes after communism.

2021-01-29 00:44:20 UTC

You're putting words in my mouth.

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