Message from @newbie

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2021-01-27 17:12:33 UTC  

But for real the ones comparing more regular and level headed people and politicians to Hitler are those that didn’t do too well in history class

2021-01-27 17:16:40 UTC  

If I’m correct it’s a type of way to win people on your side....it’s like, I don’t know how to phrase it precisely, a real thing where you brainwash people by mind tricking them by following some steps... I think 5-7, not for sure.
1) talk about the other person.
2) mention what they believe.
3) ask the audience, “ring a bell?” “Who else said that” etc.
4) point out Hitler/ Stalin
5) “compare” their beliefs

2021-01-27 18:05:38 UTC  

I’m confused

2021-01-27 18:06:26 UTC  

How does anyone remotely versed in history *not* know that the USSR attacked Poland as well

2021-01-27 18:06:58 UTC  

The first stages of Barbarossa were in Poland iirc

2021-01-27 19:04:45 UTC  

History teachers/ professors are leaving it out. Like my cousin in high school (the same one I graduated from 3 years ago) is now having it to where any WW2 information is only about the USA joining the war till it ends...the “night of knives” “bullbeer March” and etc are being left out. Even the Nazi swastica is being dropped.

2021-01-27 19:25:35 UTC  

Also they tend not to focus on the Soviet Union. Especially on collage campus’ because it’s a hard task to pump communist ideologies into students but then properly condemn the USSR. Also as an aside because The Allied powers sided with The Commenturn (again poor spelling my apologies) not out of a love for the USSR but because Hitler broke the pact with Stalin and “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” so any enemy of Nazi Germany is The Allies Friend. However thanks to the Cold War the involvement of the USSR is often downplayed so rather than Germany and Russia invading Poland it’s simply phrased as “Germany invaded Poland” at least that’s how it was taught to me in Secondary school which is the British equivalent to high school

2021-01-27 19:27:20 UTC  

Technically it starts with Germany invading poland, just that Russia joined in a little after that

2021-01-27 19:48:03 UTC  

The British East India Company had control of India from 1757 to 1857, so could the East India Company be considered the first real example of Anarcho-Capitalism?

2021-01-27 19:48:17 UTC  

just an interesting thought that came to my mind

2021-01-27 20:41:29 UTC  

It's interesting how no one really talks about the Soviets invading Poland. If i recall correctly, it happened 16 days after Germany did, (i may be incorrect).

2021-01-27 20:57:36 UTC  

The first reports of Russians entering polish territory were documented to be roughly 2 weeks after the initial invasion by Germany

2021-01-28 10:52:06 UTC  

So by sheer nature the soviets are overshadowed by the Nazis because they was there first

2021-01-28 10:52:51 UTC  

who like roman empire

2021-01-28 17:33:25 UTC  

Don’t fool yourself. Calling Hitler Pure evil is absolutely wrong. I’m not defending the man, but when you call a man a monster, you must keep in mind that he is in fact man. Know that saying ,”Perhaps the greatest trick the devil pulled was convincing everyone that he didn’t exist”? That principle applies here

2021-01-28 17:34:01 UTC  

People - human beings are capable of tremendous good and terrible evil.

2021-01-28 18:03:05 UTC  

I would also point who on first place allow him to take "power" in Germany

2021-01-28 18:03:32 UTC  

Weimar Republic

2021-01-28 18:04:10 UTC  

Yes it happen on 17/09/1939 My grandfather twas taken as a prisoner of war by soviets

2021-01-28 20:26:14 UTC  

i am sorry to hear that

2021-01-28 20:34:58 UTC  

he run away than German caught him and he spent 4 years in Dachau, but he survive

2021-01-29 00:22:28 UTC  

Fascism is the result after the inevitable faillure of Communism. See modern China for details.

2021-01-29 00:23:00 UTC  

Fascism is evil, and it's awful in virtually every way. But at least it's workable.

2021-01-29 00:23:45 UTC  

That's not a defense of Fascism, merely an indictment of Communism.

2021-01-29 00:40:36 UTC  

well, not necessarily. Hitler and Mussolini were Fascists and they were an authoritarian force to fight the authoritarian Communists

2021-01-29 00:42:20 UTC  

That's a non sequiter.

2021-01-29 00:42:41 UTC  

How does that mean that Fascism does not follow in the wake of Communism?

2021-01-29 00:43:10 UTC  

its more of the other way around

2021-01-29 00:43:34 UTC  

for example, Pol Pot's regime came after the Facsist Dictatorship of Prince Sianouk

2021-01-29 00:43:37 UTC  

I never said that Communism can't follow fascism.

2021-01-29 00:43:54 UTC  

I said that Fascism comes after communism.

2021-01-29 00:44:20 UTC  

You're putting words in my mouth.

2021-01-29 00:44:49 UTC  

you said "Fascism is the result of failed communism"

2021-01-29 00:45:02 UTC  

So I said that isn't the only way

2021-01-29 00:45:22 UTC  

Neither did I. I said that it inevitably follows communism.

2021-01-29 00:45:36 UTC  

Not that it cannot arise in other circumstances.

2021-01-29 00:45:48 UTC  

Do you understand?

2021-01-29 00:45:50 UTC  

right but that's how I read it

2021-01-29 00:46:07 UTC  

Oh I understand, I was simply making sure you understood.

2021-01-29 00:47:38 UTC  

Huh

2021-01-29 00:47:53 UTC  

Communism sets up an unworkable economic structure and a very clear political structure. And because people need some sort of economic structure to fulfill their material needs, Communism will fail. But the Authoritarian political structure will still exist even if the country opens itself to markets. Therefor, it will become Fascist.