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Well Columbus sailed the ocean blue in 1942 tho thatโs all ik, so some time after that
Yeah and right before that he bombed pearl harbor
Dummies he never existed it was just gods fart
That or the other theory is Columbus was flying from a spaceship and killed a bunch of space commies
A true american hero!
So I was debating this person about the history of the democrats and he claims and believes that the republicans now are the democrats during and after the civil war. I know this is not true but is there anything that explains it?
Youโre wrong!
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That is how he reacted
Soviet army engineers clearing landmines in Afghanistan
this will go down in the history books, they even scrubbed dislikes. The white house even turned off the comments
Definitely the most popular president. They even turned off comments to prevent him from being overloaded with so much heartfelt positivity and heartfelt compliments
Checkout this trailer for the series Washington's Armor https://www.youtube.com/watch?fbclid=IwAR0DM_Tu_mftZXGfS6iuV4YtAmAzt1XGsHassEm68zBpsBMM6erlugJ-MJE&v=iazFkCfmUgQ&feature=youtu.be
WW2 era Irish soldiers
With a stahlhelm variant called the โvickers helmetโ
Hmm
Last soviet convoy leaving afghanistan. They were still attacked even though they were leaving.
they were attacked by the Afghanistan rebels?
They were attacked because of PR, mostly.
That way the rebels could claim that they gloriously routed the soviet forces instead of having it look to their supporters like the drawdown it was.
https://youtu.be/w84uRYq0Uc8
This lecture should be showed to every US student in public school
Based.
For references from the <#801170149855723540> channel.
Pretty sure this has already been posted. ๐
Remember that one time France lost to Germany within a year?
We don't talk about that...
Fun fact: Most "cowboys" in the early days were Black/Mexican.
Yeah, France under the Monarchy was pretty dystopian, but at least they were strong. Once they adopted socialism in the interwar years? Yeah that ended.
Franco-Prussian war?
Is that the Franco-prussian war? I figured he just grabbed a random thumbnail.
The image looks like itโs from the civil war, but the Franco Prussian war I believe was what heโs talking about with France losing to the Prussians within a year
Still: I gotta say France was better defended under the Monarchy. Less rats, more patriots.
@ThiccSpicyGenderRevealParty Those are French soldiers
You can reverse image search it on google and find it
They just vibin
And the most cause of cowboy deaths were by Native Americans AND other black cow lies when their cattle marches merged and they fought over who had what cow
I donโt remember if I already said this but fun fact: During the Invasion of Poland, no, the polish did not go charging German tanks, but instead engaged them at distance with Antitank rifles
The misconception that the polish charger German tanks comes from an engagement where after routing a German camp, several polish Calvary-men were gunned down by machine guns mounted in a half track
Then, while Italian Reporters were at the scene, they saw the dead Calvarymen, and a couple of tanks that happened to be there, and went with the conclusion that the poles were desperate to the point that they tried charging tanks on horseback, and the misconception stuck for the rest of the war and onwards
yee haw muchachos
Yeah, but leadership positions were still limited to whites.
hey in this server do we talk about WWII history only or like the history of humanity as a whole? indus, anubis, abraham....
literaly anything related to history
cool
the polish military actually did use cavalry, but not in battle, rather they used it to get their troops around quickly. Also, mire polish badassery, during the opening days of the war in Danzig, a couple of poles in the post office held out against nazi infantry, artillery, and armoured vechiles. These postmen were so vigilent that the nazi's had to blow up the entire building because they simply could not take it.
Can someone explain to me why the Confederate flag is problematic? And can another person also explain why itโs not problematic?
How itโs not problematic. It was a flag that was going to be used by the Confederacy when they tried to rebel from the Union because the northern states wanted to end slavery.
How it is problematic: the southern states where Democrats who wanted to keep their slaves. Any person who knows this knows that the same party thatโs wanting it removed, was the same party that wanted to keep their slaves. Thus, said party called it โracistsโ because โwhite supremacists want to use it to justify slave ownershipโ
Here's the thing, the civil war didn't become a war about slavery until the Emancipation Proclamation happened, which allowed the Union to guilt trip European Nations into supporting them on account of them having already banned slavery
Thatโs also true.
Personally, I donโt really like it, but Iโm not going to wet myself over it.
The European Nations had a role in the Civil War?๐
Sort of, not really
The south tried to get European support due to them selling cotton to the British
But the British said no because 1. They could just get cotton from Egypt, 2, the south didnโt really have anything to offer them with the delegates being unprepared to actually negotiate, and 3. The north made it a conflict of slavery meaning that the British had to support the north considering they already outlawed slavery
Not to say that there weren't plenty of abolitionists in the North, and a great lack of them in the South. But politicians are politicians. Even the Founding Fathers didn't make slavery illegal, when they knew it was wrong. They wanted the support of the Southern States in the revolution (who wouldn't) and that meant getting in bed with the devil.
So of course Northern members of congress were hesitant to even approach the topic. They weren't so very different from today's politicians in that avoiding controversy altogether is the easier way of running a campaign.
well, early on in the Civil War, the Brits and the French had traded with the South for Cotton, however that quickly came to an end when the North utalized the Anaconda plan, which cut off the Confederates to Europe, which also as a side effect caused both france and Britian to enter a Cotton Famine and both nations gave the Confederacy a chance to either win a significant battle or punch through the Union Blockaid and they would send in their support
and since the South failed to do either, both Britain and France withdrew any support and delved into interests elsewhere
the issue of Slavery wasnt one that played a huge role in either nations support of the South, since both nations well practiced it in their territories outside of their nations borders, with Britian having used it well up till the early 20th century
what is interesting tho is that, while Canada was still a territory of Britian at the time and had to follow lock and step with their mother nation, they had pledged support to the North, going against their mother nation
frankly the issue of Slavery in the Civil War wouldnt pop up till after the battle of Gettysburge, in which the Address givin by Lincoln would state that only the rebelling Southern states slaves were to be declared free. However this was ultimately all for show as he had no power in deciding what the Confederacy did and explicity made it where it didnt ban slavery in the North, as there were still several very key Northern states that used slavery. the 2 most notable being both Maryland and Delaware. Going against their wishes was in essence a literal suicide move as it would give the Confederacy enough land and men where they could mount an actual offensive against the White House and win the war
politicians then were very much no different than they are today
and the only reason why Lincoln gave the Gettysburg Address was because he was frankly losing the war not just on the frontlines, but inside the very homeland as citizens of several states were growing tired of sending their husbands and sons off to war just to die, even going so far as Draft Riots breaking out in New York City
Not "The only reason". By the time of the Gettysburg address, Lincoln was a staunch abolitionist. He had a personal interest in seeing the slaves freed.
He was not losing the war, but people were growing tired of it. The political willpower was there to win in the White House. Grant may have been a butcher, but he understood the numbers game. 5,000 Union troops were replaceable. 500 Confederate soldiers? Not nearly so much.
Add to this that the South was short on everything needed to win. Ammo, guns, food, clothes, horses, cannon, powder....Yeah. There was no way the South was winning that fight if there was the willpower on the part of the Northerners. Had we had the balls to use the same tactics we used on the South, we would have won in Vietnam, Korea would still be unified, and Afghanistan would have never been a problem.
That being said, there is no doubt that it was one of the most tragic events in our nation's history. The fact that Americans would take to the field against one another is one of those things that makes me wish to punch a wall. A kid from Texas is no less human than a kid from Minnesota. The fact that we spent nearly five years slaughtering each other pisses me off.
Well...are ya ready for round two....?
Do we count people who don't believe in the Constitution as Americans?
I mean.. โlawfullyโ they are. But hey soon everyone will be an American...sooo...yes...yes
I think it makes more sense to judge people by their practices than their words. They don't like our nation. They're actively seeking to destroy it. They say the people who founded it were evil. They enact segregationist policies. They view their fellow citizens as enemies in every sense of the word. As far as they're concerned, the Bill of Rights needs to be torched so that they can enact their grand cultural revolution. Which, in everything but name, is a witch-hunt for heretics and blasphemers against that which they hold sacred.
I don't believe they're Americans. It's not a civil war. It's...what is it exactly?....
Fascism/ communism
And not the good kind.
Ahhh. Radical fundementalist terrorism.
That too. Communism in name, fascism in practice.
They are literally the Naziโs they claim all republicans are.
I know. When a corporation does something they don't like, they say corporations are evil, that private property is a sham. When corporations do something they like? "But Muh Private Property."
We probably wonโt have it. My dad has been preaching, and heโs talked about things thatโs going to happen in the Biden/Harris administration that has happened, but not mentioned
Probably won't happen.
He nailed them barricading themselves in at the White House with national guard and a wall since December
I just noticed something.
There *are* four factions. Which I knew, even if I forgot it since November. But it's crystallizing now. But I was always mislabeling them.
I said something like "Among the politically aware, there are four groups. The Establishment Democrats, the Populist Democrats, the Patriots, and those who simply wish to be left alone."
But what does the populist Left stand for? Communism. They hate the Establishment Left as much as we do. Maybe even more so. The were the Bernie Bros.
What are the Establishment democrats? Well, they're the Fascists. They're all about big corporate power as long as it acts within the interests and the confines of the State.
Then there are the Patriots and the right-wing anarchist groups. We know who they are.
We know the Establishment is going after Antifa. And we know Antifa is rioting in protest of the establishment. We're watching the tankies and the Fascists have it out.
So the populist left is basically the left wing version of us?
Yes but no?
I mean they kinda are, we both oppose the establishment because they cheated us in some way
Difference is in details
No because of the baseline philosophical divide.
Because we're more devoted to creation and preservation.
I don't think the tankies want to create or preserve anything. They say they love the poor, but I think the reality is that they simply hate the rich. And if they have burn the whole world just to spite the rich, they totally would.
You're right in the strictly political sense, though, Thicc.
Speaking of the establishment factions, arenโt they mostly congressmen, or and their supporters(major corporations)?
And I guess the Establishment Right would be the Aristocracy. Bush, Cheney, the like.
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